Wash: Mal, your dead army buddy's on the bridge! Zoe: He ain't dead. Wash: Oh.

'The Message'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Fred Pete - Apr 16, 2004 10:06:46 am PDT #7618 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I loved Andrew because he's cute, but he took time from other folks.

I'm not sure that was a mistake by itself. The show had long been able to integrate new characters into the group, and it didn't become clear until pretty late that S7 would be the last. Maybe he didn't deserve quite so much emphasis, or at least needed to provide more of an impetus to everyone else's story, but I liked his story.

But not enough wrod in the world to show my agreement on the "too many potentials" line of argument.


DavidS - Apr 16, 2004 10:17:58 am PDT #7619 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I loved Andrew because he's cute, but he took time from other folks.

I think Andrew's story was one of the few things that was fresh and interesting and consistently entertaining in S7. Obviously the writers enjoyed writing for his character and didn't feel so constrained as they did with the show's own mythology.


Connie Neil - Apr 16, 2004 10:37:26 am PDT #7620 of 10001
brillig

I think we need to see Andrew one last time.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2004 10:43:07 am PDT #7621 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Andrew's story was one of the few things that was fresh and interesting and consistently entertaining in S7.

Here's where we part company. I'm hoping Illyria's time-manipulation powers mean that if she should ever meet Andrew and be sufficiently annoyed by him, she can go back in time and kill him retroactively before Buffy Season 7 happens.


Fred Pete - Apr 16, 2004 10:45:01 am PDT #7622 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Matt, but then you miss "Storyteller." Which may have been the last Great Buffy Ep.


Mariposa - Apr 16, 2004 10:52:06 am PDT #7623 of 10001
"Very occasionally, if you really pay attention, life doesn't suck." -Joss Whedon

Buffy the Vampire Slayer is my favorite TV show, ever. In fact, I can't even imagine a day when it won't be my favorite show. That's said, it wasn't flawless.

This would look kick ass on a t-shirt. And I appreciate being able to honestly discuss the best and the worst of BtVS without it turning into a flame war.

Let Xander do...something

This was a huge beef for me in S7. Xander is such a cherished character for me and to see him banished to the background was very disappointing. I am sure the idea was to have all the core scoobies appear in the series finale, but honestly, I wish they would have put Xander *out of his misery and just had the balls to kill him off instead of poking his eye out.*

With the cancellation of Angel (and really, I don't have my money on getting it moved to a different network) some folks here and other places have lamented that this is the end of the Buffyverse. I honestly don't feel like it is. Maybe I'm in denial, but I think there are stories left to tell in film and TV.

edited to remove spoilerish comments


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2004 11:12:37 am PDT #7624 of 10001
What is even happening?

Mariposa, the full 144 episodes of BtVS can be discussed in here without spoiler font. The only thing you have to be careful of is discussion of current series. For instance you can't compare something on Buffy to something from this season of Angel, unless the Angel stuff is white fonted. In fact, I think we try to avoid talking about the current season of Angel in here at all.

It's a little confusing, because this thread was once a NAFDA thread. You're safe discussing all of BtVS in here.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2004 3:48:27 pm PDT #7625 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Fred, missing "Storyteller" would so not be a problem for me. In my memory, it's divided into "funny teaser sequence with Faith fighting Mr. Spock" and "40 minutes of Andrewcentric crap."


Mariposa - Apr 16, 2004 5:33:36 pm PDT #7626 of 10001
"Very occasionally, if you really pay attention, life doesn't suck." -Joss Whedon

Thanks for the heads up, Cindy. I white fonted in an abundance of caution because I'm still pretty newish to these parts. I had recently been visited by the stompies because I mentioned something from the current season of Angel without spoiler font. I'll get the hang of it sooner or later. :-)


P.M. Marc - Apr 16, 2004 5:44:59 pm PDT #7627 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I had recently been visited by the stompies because I mentioned something from the current season of Angel without spoiler font.

Just think of us as fairies in platform Mary Janes.