Well, look who just popped open a fresh can of venom.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Topic!Cindy - Apr 14, 2004 12:05:13 pm PDT #7584 of 10001
What is even happening?

Tsk, look what happens when the hate festers in your heart? Crazy talk.

Hee! I actually enjoyed Anya when they weren't having her be a one-note joke. I may have cried when she died. I didn't feel like she was robbed of a full life, the way I did about Tara, though. I also thought the show built a funny morality around her, that didn't fit with her character.

Spike was written to be bad for Buffy, and I get that, accept it, agree with it. But somehow, it was fine for Xander to be with someone who was so unrepentant, for so long. Anya didn't even start to become one of the good guys until she was devengified in season 7's Selfless. Until then, in my book, Anya was a dry drunk, in much the same way Chipped!Spike was, but she was generally written as a white hat, a clueless-not-getting-it-all white hat, but a white-hat, still.


Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2004 12:06:24 pm PDT #7585 of 10001
Up with the sun

SMG looks REALLY skinny in the last pic. I know it's a matter of contrast, but ... wow.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2004 12:06:54 pm PDT #7586 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

She likes the quiet.


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 12:08:14 pm PDT #7587 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Road not taken

Thank the lord for that.

Seriously, the meta issues would have made my rage on something wicked huge.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2004 12:08:47 pm PDT #7588 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

SMG looks REALLY skinny in the last pic. I know it's a matter of contrast, but ... wow.

She always lost weight during the course of the season. She's small to begin with and that schedule always wore her down and she's usually drastically skinnier in the season finale than she was in the opener.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2004 12:09:30 pm PDT #7589 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Seriously, the meta issues would have made my rage on something wicked huge.

racks brain for meta issues, looks quizzically at Ple?


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 12:11:09 pm PDT #7590 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

racks brain for meta issues, looks quizzically at Ple?

Xander as avatar of Joss, getting the girl, in the end.

Thus reducing seven years of story telling to masturbatory fantasy.

In my head.

And there's no way of fixing that.

Brave, the not going there thing.

So glad they didn't.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2004 12:13:05 pm PDT #7591 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Xander as avatar of Joss, getting the girl, in the end.

Huh. I felt like Joss abandoned Xander as his avatar some time around S4 when their respective life paths diverged so broadly. (Joss having little experience with construction work, and being all college educated.)

But I think Joss' sort of sentimental affection for Xander kept him from developing the character the way he should have, or taking chances with the character.

Besides, Wash/Zoe is TheGirl/Joss all married up and that worked out okay.


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 12:14:32 pm PDT #7592 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

He still started off that way, which is why I say there's nothing anyone could do to change my mind 'bout that issue.


P.M. Marc - Apr 14, 2004 12:15:23 pm PDT #7593 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Besides, Wash/Zoe is TheGirl/Joss all married up and that worked out okay.

Started that way, therefore, all is good.

Not seven years of men bad for Zoe before she realized "Oh! Dang, I should have been with Wash all along!"