Well, there'salso the D'Hoffryn/Cordelia connection
What connection is that? I don't quite clearly remember it.
Jayne: Captain, can you stop her from bein' cheerful, please? Mal: I don't believe there is a power in the 'verse that can stop Kaylee from being cheerful. Sometimes you just wanna duct tape her mouth and dump her in the hold for a month.
'Serenity'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Thomash - Jan 04, 2004 10:04:28 am PST #7067 of 10001
I have a plan.
DCJensen - Jan 04, 2004 10:08:24 am PST #7068 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
The only one I can recall is a tenious one, in that Anya was working for him when she granted Cordy's wish.
Thomash - Jan 04, 2004 10:22:59 am PST #7069 of 10001
I have a plan.
Tenuous at best. Willow's got stronger than that.
P.M. Marc - Jan 04, 2004 11:02:08 am PST #7070 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
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Lyra Jane - Jan 04, 2004 4:57:36 pm PST #7071 of 10001
Up with the sun
"Into the Woods" was well-acted and well-directed, and the actual lines are not bad.
The whole arc just completely fails to make any sense. It made so little sense thast my husband commented on it -- and he liked a lot of things that I do not see the sense in. Xander's reaction, especially, makes no sense, unless he sees getting suck jobs from vampires as being a boyfriend boo-boo on the level of, say, leaving one's dirty socks on the floor.
What I wondered while watching yesterday was this: what if Riley's infraction had been more sympathetic? What if he had started seeing an ordinary girl -- maybe an ex-girlfriend -- behind Buffy's back, after Buffy's "neglect" of him was made much more explicit than it actually was?
Alternately, what if all of the characters were completely sympathetic with Buffy, recognizing the severity of his betrayal, and she was the only one who blamed herself?
I think a lot of the imbalance in the ep comes form the fact that RILEY fucked up pretty seriously and for not much of a reason, yet Buffy takes the blame. And it is weird and wrong and stinks of someone else's issues.
Thoughts, comments, etc.?
Elena - Jan 04, 2004 5:01:59 pm PST #7072 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
Xander's reaction, especially, makes no sense, unless he sees getting suck jobs from vampires as being a boyfriend boo-boo on the level of, say, leaving one's dirty socks on the floor.
I'm quite, quite sure that Xander never knew about the suck jobs. Buffy told him that Riley went out and got bit, but not that it was consentual and sexual. If he had known, I really don't think that Xander would have been at all supportive of Riley.
And Xander speech, I think, was more a reflection of his relationship with Anya than Buffy's with Riley.
Susan W. - Jan 04, 2004 5:02:21 pm PST #7073 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
I think a lot of the imbalance in the ep comes form the fact that RILEY fucked up pretty seriously and for not much of a reason, yet Buffy takes the blame. And it is weird and wrong and stinks of someone else's issues.
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Frankenbuddha - Jan 04, 2004 5:03:49 pm PST #7074 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And Xander speech, I think, was more a reflection of his relationship with Anya than Buffy's with Riley.
Plus a big dose of Riley being the only boyfriend of Buffy he ever liked.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 04, 2004 5:06:20 pm PST #7075 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Did he even meet Parker?
Elena - Jan 04, 2004 5:08:03 pm PST #7076 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
I think a lot of the imbalance in the ep comes form the fact that RILEY fucked up pretty seriously and for not much of a reason, yet Buffy takes the blame. And it is weird and wrong and stinks of someone else's issues.
Buffy never told anyone about the suck jobs. Spike knew, Buffy knew. No one else was clued in. This is my recollection. And it would be Buffy's issues (pride? inferiority?) that would account for this.