But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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CaBil - Jan 03, 2004 8:18:10 pm PST #7059 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Actually, I had in the back of mind that Xander and D'Hoffryn were heading for a showdown sooner or later. D'Hoffryn took Xander somewhat seriously ('better hold him back slayer') and I can see Xander blaming D'Hoffyrn for a lot of the pain that Anya went through, and 'making it up' to her by confronting D'Hoffryn.

So I can see Xander coming to Angel (et al) for help to deal with D'Hoffryn, especially since he would think Buffy and Willow needed time to rediscover their own lives in the post-Sunnydale era and were focused on the other Slayers.

This could be his own thing, that he would want to do without them...


Barry Woodward - Jan 03, 2004 8:23:55 pm PST #7060 of 10001
I fought the law and I won!

Now that Anya's gone, I would absolutely love to see Xander and maybe Andrew(she saved his life) take on D'Hoffryn on Angel. Though the writers would have to come up with a good enough reason for them to come to LA and involve Angel and friends.


RobertH - Jan 03, 2004 11:48:30 pm PST #7061 of 10001
Disaffected college student

D'Hoffryn took Xander somewhat seriously ('better hold him back slayer')

See, I heard an unspoken "because I'd really rather not gruesomely kill him right now" right after that.


sj - Jan 04, 2004 7:09:57 am PST #7062 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

See, I heard an unspoken "because I'd really rather not gruesomely kill him right now" right after that.

Me too. I took it as hold him back because if he annoys me I could kill him all too easily. Still I like the idea of a Xander/D'Hoffryn confrontation where D'Hoffryn thinks he is easily going to win and Xander surprises him somehow.


victor infante - Jan 04, 2004 7:12:38 am PST #7063 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Though the writers would have to come up with a good enough reason for them to come to LA and involve Angel and friends.

Well, there'salso the D'Hoffryn/Cordelia connection (Not like that. Ewww.) although no one quite clearly remembers it. D'Hoffryn has seriously fucked with the women closest to Xander. It wouldn't take much of story mechanism to set them against each other and draw in the MoG.

See, I heard an unspoken "because I'd really rather not gruesomely kill him right now" right after that.

Well, yeah. And he could, but really, I think D'Hoffryn did have a higher opinion of Xander than other baddies did.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 04, 2004 8:26:44 am PST #7064 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Xander was the guy that penis-whipped his star pupil into domesticity, after all. I don't think D'Hoffryn saw him in terms of a tactical threat, I think he saw him as the no-account punk that cost him his surrogate daughter. Xander had already put more of a hurtin' on him than Buffy could ever manage.


ted r - Jan 04, 2004 8:52:01 am PST #7065 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

Season 5 is the one that gave us "Into the Woods" and "Spiral," after all.

Both of which I liked. (Actually in the case of Spiral more than liked. And yes I know-magic horsies etc. For me it's a perfect Buffy combo of Stagecoach and Beau Geste.)


SailAweigh - Jan 04, 2004 9:13:40 am PST #7066 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

For me it's a perfect Buffy combo of Stagecoach and Beau Geste

And we know it's one of Joss' favorite themes. After all, he did an entire series based on this. Spiral was just the trial run so he could work out the kinks for Firefly.


Thomash - Jan 04, 2004 10:04:28 am PST #7067 of 10001
I have a plan.

Well, there'salso the D'Hoffryn/Cordelia connection

What connection is that? I don't quite clearly remember it.


DCJensen - Jan 04, 2004 10:08:24 am PST #7068 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

The only one I can recall is a tenious one, in that Anya was working for him when she granted Cordy's wish.