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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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smonster - Aug 08, 2003 11:00:25 am PDT #4394 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

After "Hush," sure. My guess is that during rehearsals, they saw the chemistry, and decided to play it up in the actual episode. But before "Hush" aired, would you have thought of Willow as being closeted?

Hmm. Can't remember...must rewatch.


Cindy - Aug 08, 2003 11:03:51 am PDT #4395 of 10001
Nobody

After "Hush," sure. My guess is that during rehearsals, they saw the chemistry, and decided to play it up in the actual episode. But before "Hush" aired, would you have thought of Willow as being closeted?

Hmm. Can't remember...must rewatch.

No. I thought Willow was straighty mcstraight. They really had a hard sell for me, because I always saw her as crushing on almost every boy on the show. In the end, Amber's Tara won me over, because who wouldn't love Tara? Such a sweetie.


erikaj - Aug 08, 2003 11:04:49 am PDT #4396 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

No. She was pretty into Oz.And yeah, love Tara. I went to college with many Taras...you can't swing a cat in Women's Studies without hitting one. But they really don't want you to do that.


smonster - Aug 08, 2003 11:06:09 am PDT #4397 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

She also blames rugby for 'making me gay.'

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Oh, it gets way funnier. She also blames our move to NC (b/c there are no dykes in PA, obviously) and claimes that I 'chose' to be gay b/c I like being the political underdog and, I wish this weren't a direct quote, "you couldn't turn yourself black."

It took me a while to get over the sting, but now I just think it's funny and a little sad. My brother was getting mad at me for how much I mock our parents. He can get back to me if our mom ever tells him "looking at your childhood pictures makes me sick to my stomach."

Don't get me wrong, I love my parents very much and they love me. But I think I get to do a little gentle mocking.


smonster - Aug 08, 2003 11:08:50 am PDT #4398 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

No. I thought Willow was straighty mcstraight. They really had a hard sell for me, because I always saw her as crushing on almost every boy on the show. In the end, Amber's Tara won me over, because who wouldn't love Tara? Such a sweetie.

See, I am affected by my own experiences, b/c I first kissed a boy when I was two, and had two crushes that lasted SIX YEARS each and one that lasted FIVE years (all on boys) and then I kissed a woman and didn't even consider dating guys for about four years, and now I'm back to bi.

Sometimes that shit just takes you by surprise.


erikaj - Aug 08, 2003 11:11:09 am PDT #4399 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I could see that. I really can. I can also sense a return of the "How come Willow's not bi?" conversation.


smonster - Aug 08, 2003 11:15:43 am PDT #4400 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

"How come Willow's not bi?" conversation.

Aw geez. I'm not starting that.


Lyra Jane - Aug 08, 2003 11:17:05 am PDT #4401 of 10001
Up with the sun

I can also sense a return of the "How come Willow's not bi?" conversation.

So not touching that. (The answer is, "cos the script doesn't say so." )


erikaj - Aug 08, 2003 11:17:38 am PDT #4402 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Nor I, because I wouldn't know of what I spoke.


Cindy - Aug 08, 2003 3:34:36 pm PDT #4403 of 10001
Nobody

smonster - your real life experience (and ouch to your mom - please do mock her, you've more grace than I would) I would buy. I didn't think they sold me on Willow, maybe it's because I didn't see her first kiss with Tara. At the beginning, it was all so metaphorical. I think if I'd seen Willow going through anything (nerves, excitement, lust, questioning, angst) prior to her telling Buffy in New Moon Rising that 'it's complicated, because of Tara' - I'd have been sold completely.

On the other hand though, I am appreciative that it wasn't approached as either, "How Willow Got Gay" or in the manner of an ABC afterschool special. By the end of NMR, I was into it. But they were too coy by half for me at the beginning, particularly considering Willow's prior boy-crushiness.

eta...

by saying "I would buy" your real life experience, I was using really poorly chosen words to express that I do understand that people just fall for people, and so if I'd seen more of Willow's story play out, the way you explained yours, I would have been sold on W/T, more quickly.