It's like, in the middle of all this, I'm paranoid that you'll think I don't like poetry.

Buffy ,'Empty Places'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Lyra Jane - Aug 08, 2003 11:17:05 am PDT #4401 of 10001
Up with the sun

I can also sense a return of the "How come Willow's not bi?" conversation.

So not touching that. (The answer is, "cos the script doesn't say so." )


erikaj - Aug 08, 2003 11:17:38 am PDT #4402 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Nor I, because I wouldn't know of what I spoke.


Cindy - Aug 08, 2003 3:34:36 pm PDT #4403 of 10001
Nobody

smonster - your real life experience (and ouch to your mom - please do mock her, you've more grace than I would) I would buy. I didn't think they sold me on Willow, maybe it's because I didn't see her first kiss with Tara. At the beginning, it was all so metaphorical. I think if I'd seen Willow going through anything (nerves, excitement, lust, questioning, angst) prior to her telling Buffy in New Moon Rising that 'it's complicated, because of Tara' - I'd have been sold completely.

On the other hand though, I am appreciative that it wasn't approached as either, "How Willow Got Gay" or in the manner of an ABC afterschool special. By the end of NMR, I was into it. But they were too coy by half for me at the beginning, particularly considering Willow's prior boy-crushiness.

eta...

by saying "I would buy" your real life experience, I was using really poorly chosen words to express that I do understand that people just fall for people, and so if I'd seen more of Willow's story play out, the way you explained yours, I would have been sold on W/T, more quickly.


HoyaSaxa - Aug 08, 2003 6:32:41 pm PDT #4404 of 10001
Diablo Robotico Up.

Um...

today on FX I'm watching the Buffy S3 premiere, and there's this scene of a lonely woman on the streets of LA. And I'm thinking 'hey, isn't that exact same clip used in the Angel opening credits?'

I like how the Buffy S3 opener introduced us to the physics and time-lapse dynamics in a hell dimension. It allowed us to get a better understanding of just how long Angel was in a hell dimension and further explains Connor's maturation in Angel S3.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2003 6:53:42 pm PDT #4405 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's so weird. I'm guessing I was subconsciously commanded to put in my S3 DVDs. Buffy's just reclaimed her name, fought back, and we saw the panning shot over her face that was in the credits forever.


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2003 6:59:08 pm PDT #4406 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

kashi:

Okay, the scene where Buffy dives into Joyce's arms didn't use to make me tear up, darn it.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 08, 2003 7:03:00 pm PDT #4407 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

"Want to see my impression of Gandhi?"


§ ita § - Aug 08, 2003 7:03:29 pm PDT #4408 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

"Gandhi?"


Frankenbuddha - Aug 08, 2003 7:04:50 pm PDT #4409 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Damn - was it "Well if he was really pissed off" ?

Or was there a tamer version of pissed off?


Noumenon - Aug 08, 2003 7:04:51 pm PDT #4410 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

Foreshadowing that never was:

ANGEL (to Spike): To kill this girl... you have to love her.

The popular application of the quote was to Crush!Spike, but if Angel hadn't spun off, maybe they could've done an arc where he ended up having to kill Buffy, possibly out of mercy.