Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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CaBil - Aug 04, 2003 7:11:05 am PDT #4173 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

But in the reality Buffy remembered as of 2002, she had been. It's a false memory caused by Dawn's presence – either Buffy told Dawn and Dawn told their parents (not exactly what B. says, but close enough),

In the only version of the story we have so far (the comic version) it is Dawn that rats Buffy out, so it works.


Lyra Jane - Aug 04, 2003 7:32:19 am PDT #4174 of 10001
Up with the sun

In the only version of the story we have so far (the comic version) it is Dawn that rats Buffy out, so it works.

Heh. Fanwankery and quasi-canon collide!


Cindy - Aug 04, 2003 9:03:48 am PDT #4175 of 10001
Nobody

Eons ago, on the Bronze, Joss said we could consider the comics (including Fray) as part of canon, but not the books, and I think not the film.

Of course, he was probably just tossing out an answer to shut up whomever asked him (no - not I).


CaBil - Aug 04, 2003 10:55:50 am PDT #4176 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Could he mean just his and the ME writers books?

That would make Tales of the Slayers, Fray, the Angel miniseries and Buffy/Mayor miniseries...


tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 11:03:12 am PDT #4177 of 10001

Could he mean just his and the ME writers books?

I was wondering the same thing - because the current Buffy comics are also telling Giles' backstory. So far, it gels with the canon established in the show, but it and the Giles-centric one-shots they have done equal a whole lotta previously unestablished Giles canon if all the comics count.


Cindy - Aug 04, 2003 2:47:04 pm PDT #4178 of 10001
Nobody

Could he mean just his and the ME writers books?

If by books you mean comic books, then I'd say yes. He might have only meant his own, too.

He definitely didn't consider things like Golden and Holder's stuff to be canon.


tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 2:55:44 pm PDT #4179 of 10001

If by books you mean comic books, then I'd say yes. He might have only meant his own, too.

This makes sense.

There is still weirdness with Fray being canon because in it, vampires and magic were banished from earth and it more than hints that Buffy and Willow were the banishers (which I guess could still happen) and it gives a lot of info about slayers but fails to mention that there were a mess of new slayers all slayered-up at one time.

But - I am guessing it is all wankable.

I would say edited, but really it was re-written to say something that made a bit of sense.


DCJensen - Aug 04, 2003 3:03:16 pm PDT #4180 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

There is still weirdness with Fray being canon because of how it alludes to vampires and magic being banished from earth and how Chosen ends (meaning Fray certainly never mentions that there were a mess of new slayers all slayered-up at one time).

But - I am guessing it is wankable.

Could be a punishment by TPTB for creating so many slayers. Or a gift for destroying all unsouled vampires.


tina f. - Aug 04, 2003 3:10:40 pm PDT #4181 of 10001

See now DCJ - you messed me all up by recopying my post before I was able to make it less dumb. : )


DCJensen - Aug 04, 2003 3:20:12 pm PDT #4182 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

I can change the quote to be your corrected post, tho.