Inara: So, explain to me again why Zoe wasn't in the dress? Mal: Tactics, woman. Needed her in the back. 'Sides, those soft cotton dresses feel kinda nice. It's the whole... air-flow.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


DavidS - Aug 02, 2003 3:42:26 pm PDT #4094 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I just don't see the vamping at all. That would've struck me as totally false. Completely gutless story telling after what they'd done in S6. I would have been very disappointed. It had to be about sex.

Though I always wondered why they never used that narrative line - they never really vamped a regular character. It would've been intense if Jenny Calendar had been vamped. Plus Sexy! I think that storyline worked fine as it was. But there were a lot of secondary characters where it still would've packed a punch. All we got was Zombie!Forrester.


sj - Aug 02, 2003 3:47:40 pm PDT #4095 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think it would be interesting to see a slayer vamped, and now that there are so many to choose from it doesn't have to be a major character. I want to know what it would mean in terms of strength and power.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 4:10:21 pm PDT #4096 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

We do have the example of Buffy herself from "Nightmares," although that was a unique situation and Buffy remained partially herself (complete with soul) in addition to getting the effects of vampirism.

It seems to me that with the Slayer power departing in favor of a new Chosen One, the resultant vampire would be just like any other new fledgeling—i.e., a significant step down in raw power from what the girl was used to. Maybe with the slight advantage of already having a fair bit of combat training and experience, and the major one of knowing about her former Watcher and his peers. As someone else said before, a Watcher's last official duty with regard to his charge is probably making sure she doesn't rise as a vampire.


sj - Aug 02, 2003 4:16:36 pm PDT #4097 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

We do have the example of Buffy herself from "Nightmares,"

True.

Buffy remained partially herself (complete with soul) in addition to getting the effects of vampirism.

And, we didn't really get a chance to see if she was even stronger, ect.

with the Slayer power departing in favor of a new Chosen One, the resultant vampire would be just like any other new fledgeling

But the rules have changed now. All of the potentials are now Slayers so the Slayer power is no longer being passed from one girl to the next. Therefore, a slayervampire might just have the powers and abilities of both.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2003 4:17:00 pm PDT #4098 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

with the Slayer power departing in favor of a new Chosen One

Buffy's didn't when she died the first two times, though, so there's little reason to assume a law of conservation of Slayerhood.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 02, 2003 4:29:29 pm PDT #4099 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Buffy's didn't when she died the first two times, though, so there's little reason to assume a law of conservation of Slayerhood.

Yeah, but both times she returned as Buffy, not as a demon wearing a Buffy suit. Actually, after her first death she returned amped up in power and possessed of new confidence and certainty of her mission.

Which worked so much better with the early assumption that her destiny as the Chosen One was divine in nature (and thus strengthened by a brief brush with the afterlife/Hero's journey into the Underworld) rather than something randomly bestowed by a swirly demonic cloud.


mikal - Aug 02, 2003 4:35:05 pm PDT #4100 of 10001
What I love most about you core whores: the foreplay .... tina F.

I always felt that she came back souless - not actually - but dispirited and not happy about it. When viewed from that 'more like Faith' perspective, I'd like to see some of those eps reshot with a tad more leather.

Edited to add: Buffy leather , that is.


§ ita § - Aug 02, 2003 4:41:31 pm PDT #4101 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought the demon wearing a person suit wasn't quite right.

Now, maybe the slayerness is tied to having a soul, which would be a good precaution to take, but I don't think we've been shown info either way.


Burrell - Aug 02, 2003 4:45:53 pm PDT #4102 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I thought the demon wearing a person suit wasn't quite right.

This reminds me of MiB--the Edgar suit!


mikal - Aug 02, 2003 4:47:02 pm PDT #4103 of 10001
What I love most about you core whores: the foreplay .... tina F.

big nummer, Ita

I have to admit that I didn't really watch very much after that. I skimmed, and tried to keep up .... especially after the 'romance' began. But I felt SMG might have been a tad more dominant ...... maybe even tap on the anger in her RL. Or rmaybe Freddie just was overwhelmingly satisfying.

t leaving typo