Ah, yes, of course. The gypsies, they gave you your soul. The gypsies are filthy people. Ptui! We shall speak of them no more.

Ilona Costa Bianchi ,'The Girl in Question'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Kassto - Jul 28, 2003 4:06:20 pm PDT #3726 of 10001
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'

Speaking here as a Spoldemort... we are a subtle and varied breed, OK? Not all of us are idiots. There are some pretty good arguments for irritation at Buffy (and others) in the interests of Spoldemortism. One, of many, that leaps into my head right now and makes me seethe is the following from season 6: Buffy dumps Spike, saying she is using him and can never love him. Xander ditches Anya at the altar (maximum humiliation). Spike and Anya indulge in a little desperate canoodling for comfort's sake. The camera just happens to be there. Self-righteous wrath on the part of Buffy and Xander. Somehow this is interpreted as their ditched partners hurting THEM, when I actually thought being ditched made you a free agent. And poor Spike is so whipped he actually apologises. I don't care if he, or Anya is evil, good, or some shade of grey in between -- if they're good enough to be involved with, even if it is only using them as an instrument of physical pleasure, they are good enough to treat with a modicum of respect. And that's only one of many incidents I could cite from S6.

OK, so some Spoldemorts may be nutters. But some of us aren't. There are many times I've adored Buffy. And Xander. (Never liked Willow that much.) But sometimes they behave like crap.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 28, 2003 4:08:17 pm PDT #3727 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

MMmmmmmmm, Pacey.

Do all the Pacey fans know they are selling the DVD Directors Cut of the Dawson's Creek Finale. With 10 minutes of cut Pacey footage. Um... Well, that didn't really sound right...


Allyson - Jul 28, 2003 4:10:06 pm PDT #3728 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

But some of us aren't.

I am weary from the battle. Prove to me you are not wearing a tinfoil hat.


DCJensen - Jul 28, 2003 4:10:13 pm PDT #3729 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Oh Dear, i do belive we have another word to the Buffista Lexicon.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2003 4:15:01 pm PDT #3730 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the DVD Directors Cut of the Dawson's Creek Finale

Curses. Netflix doesn't have it.

Yet.


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2003 4:15:09 pm PDT #3731 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Twice? I missed one, then. Where, where? You know the one I saw. I saw the missing Chosen scene that you did, that made me all better again.

It's somewhere in the LJ, which is being a Devon. Flashfic challenge thing.

Somehow this is interpreted as their ditched partners hurting THEM, when I actually thought being ditched made you a free agent.

You don't, when ditched, sleep with your ex-honey's friends until the statute of limitations has run out. It's just not good manners.


Daisy Jane - Jul 28, 2003 4:16:05 pm PDT #3732 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Self-righteous wrath on the part of Buffy and Xander.

I only remember Xander reacting that way. I remember Buffy being shocked and hurt, but no wrath.

And I'm not sure that Xander's position was wholly unjustified. I mean, sure Spike may have been comfortcookie, but did she have to sleep with the one guy Xander loathes. He's prolly gonna have icky Buffy/Angel associations too. I understand the wrath.


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2003 4:18:09 pm PDT #3733 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the one guy Xander loathes

She coulda slept with Angel.

Actually, would it hurt worse to sleep with someone like Riley that Xander basically boycrushes on?


P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2003 4:20:33 pm PDT #3734 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Actually, would it hurt worse to sleep with someone like Riley that Xander basically boycrushes on?

Good question. I kind of doubt it, though it would ruin the boycrush.

I think part of the hurt and shock Buffy felt was from the casual cruelty of Spike smacking Xander (and, because of the way it was said, her) in the face with "Good enough for Buffy."


§ ita § - Jul 28, 2003 4:21:50 pm PDT #3735 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I figure maybe the boycrush being damaged is worse -- Xander likes hating Spike. For Anya to make him hate Riley -- that would be evil.