Anya points out in OaFA that Halfrek has "coughDaddyIssuescough". It appears that Halfrek's vengence is directed at "helping" children. If Cecily and Halfrek are the same person (rather than just being characters played by the same actress), Cecily's issues wrt William culd be rooted in bad parenting. Maybe her own father was a bad poet and layabout and lost the family fortune (at some point in the past).
Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.
Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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justkim - Jul 28, 2003 4:50:26 am PDT #3658 of 10001
Another social casualty...
Vortex - Jul 28, 2003 5:21:39 am PDT #3659 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Cecily's issues wrt William culd be rooted in bad parenting. Maybe her own father was a bad poet and layabout and lost the family fortune (at some point in the past).
or maybe she got pregnant?
Jessica - Jul 28, 2003 5:39:29 am PDT #3660 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I like to think that Cecily ended up as Halfrek b/c one of the clods who abused William at that party got with her and then cheated on her
So, you figure ME just didn't know when the Crimean War was? (Not that I doubt that, you understand -- chronology's never been their strong suit -- just asking.)
ted r - Jul 28, 2003 8:21:19 am PDT #3661 of 10001
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein
On Cecily and Halfrek-I just thought that was a meta joke for Buffy fans because they used the same actress.
brenda m - Jul 28, 2003 8:26:26 am PDT #3662 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
They had Halfrek address Spike as William once. The whole thing I find majorly annoying. Why put it there if you're not going anywhere with it? Why use the same actess and pretend we won't recognize her. Contrast this situation with the lovely continutity of Chanterelle/Lily/Anne or even Vamp Sandy.
DCJensen - Jul 28, 2003 8:27:52 am PDT #3663 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
I postulated that Halfrek took on the Cecily persona at the time when she was spending a lot of time doing vengence (Justice? hee) around Victorian England.
So of course she couldn't be bothered with a suitor, and why go for the kill when you can go for the pain?
Halfrek is the kind of demon who would have said her "beneath me" speech to William for just that reason.
:)
Edit: missed Palendromic numberslut.
sj - Jul 28, 2003 8:31:24 am PDT #3664 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
If Halfrek was getting her vengeance on in the Crimean War (1854-56, thank you, Google), she'd have already been a demon in 1880.
This is where the continuity of Halfrek and Cecily doesn't match up for me. In "Lies my Parents Told Me" Williams mother refered to Cecily as either being the daughter of such and such or of the such and such family. I don't remember which. If she had alreadhy been a vengance demon for over twenty-five years, would she still be associated with a family in London?
esse - Jul 28, 2003 8:33:46 am PDT #3665 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
Well, if you take Daniel's idea, and the ability of vengeance demons to create a persona/family for themself, it could be plausible.
DCJensen - Jul 28, 2003 8:37:01 am PDT #3666 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
If she had alreadhy been a vengance demon for over twenty-five years, would she still be associated with a family in London?
Well, if Vengence Demons can alter timelines, insinuating themselves into victorian society wouldn't be a problem. Even without warping, all you really would need is to have the "daughter away at school" be replaced with Halfrek.
P.M. Marc - Jul 28, 2003 8:37:11 am PDT #3667 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
On Cecily and Halfrek-I just thought that was a meta joke for Buffy fans because they used the same actress.
Wanking aside, I believe this has been confirmed.