I walk. I talk. I shop, I sneeze. I'm gonna be a fireman when the floods roll back. There's trees in the desert since you moved out. And I don't sleep on a bed of bones.

Buffy ,'Chosen'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 10, 2003 3:29:30 pm PDT #3325 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, but he was in it for what, two minutes?

I think it may be the fact I found Monkey'sPaw!Joyce to be the scariest thing in the show's history that made me so fond of the ep. Although I'm also of the opinion that SMG tuned in some of her finest acting of the season in that final scene.


Gleebo - Jul 10, 2003 3:31:01 pm PDT #3326 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

Yeah but I cringed through the 2 minutes. I think I need a rewatch. Maybe it was because it was right after one of the most dramatically gripping episodes of the entire series run that made most of "Forever" ring hollow for me.


Elena - Jul 10, 2003 3:32:17 pm PDT #3327 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

The demon eggs were in As You Were and I stand by my wank that Spike was holding the eggs for someone else to try to make money to help the girls out. Because there is no way he'd use the underworld nickname 'Doc'.

LALALALALALALA! I can't hear anything you say to contradict me.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 10, 2003 3:35:22 pm PDT #3328 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

"Forever" had demon eggs too, and made into reality my sarcastic prediction about cast raises resulting in the monsters being played by Muppets in Season 5.


Sean K - Jul 10, 2003 3:36:20 pm PDT #3329 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The demon eggs were in As You Were and I stand by my wank that Spike was holding the eggs for someone else to try to make money to help the girls out. Because there is no way he'd use the underworld nickname 'Doc'.

Feh. That was another "that's totally stupid and makes no sense" episode.


Elena - Jul 10, 2003 3:38:21 pm PDT #3330 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

"Forever" had demon eggs too

Oh, yes, for the raising spell. I had forgotten.

Sean, yes, if they had only picked another name. 'Doc' (or was it 'The Doctor'?) is just not something Spike would have used.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 10, 2003 3:38:33 pm PDT #3331 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, "As You Were" had me thinking "Couldn't this episode be a psychotic hallucination brought on by demon venom too? Please?"


RobertH - Jul 10, 2003 3:46:07 pm PDT #3332 of 10001
Disaffected college student

Something's that's been bothering me in recent interviews is the line "We wish we could've given Xander (Giles) (Dawn) more of a storyline (personality) (life), but there were all these things we had to get done this season, and there just wasn't time." Because just how much characterization (one of the highest points of Buffy) are you willing to let fall by the wayside before reconsidering how important "all those other things you have to get done" are?

My view of the season's high and low points: first seven good-to-excellent (I'll let "Help" and parts of "Him" slide); next eight a completely average muddle, with TKiM and First Date rising above it at points; Storyteller dragging me back to happiness; LMPTM dashing it away again; Dirty Girls, Empty Places, and Touched another, less severe slump; End of Days and Chosen getting Es for effort.

Still, despite the banality of Help, the when-will-it-end-ness of Never Bring a Sleeper to Showtime Potential Night, and the pod people of LMPTM, nothing came anywhere near the level of The Episode Which Shall Never Be Watched Again.

I liked Season 7, but I wish I could have loved it.


RobertH - Jul 10, 2003 3:48:59 pm PDT #3333 of 10001
Disaffected college student

(I misused the word "completely" in that last post. But I'm not editing it, because I'm afraid the paragraph in question will explode.)


Jessica - Jul 10, 2003 4:52:47 pm PDT #3334 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Because I think it should have been a season long Yoko Factor, with lots of mental anguish.

Yup, pretty much, Elena. And the defeating of it should have involved something more metaphysical than just staking lots of vampires. Because, dude, it's The First Evil. It should either be undefeatable, blah blah moral lesson about balancecakes, or, the Chosen spell should have had an explicit extra dimension of restoring balance, (since in my S7 Done Right, the desire to empower the potentials comes from Buffy's desire for justice, not her bitterness over her stolen childhood).

And Matt, yes, word. So much more powerful that way.