I am not having sex with Spike! But I'm starting to think that you might be.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Jessica - Jul 08, 2003 3:55:44 pm PDT #3230 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Oh, ITA, Allyson, but this specifically sounds too much like the Wild at Heart commentary for me to take it even a little bit seriously.


Shanshu - Jul 08, 2003 5:22:54 pm PDT #3231 of 10001
If skills sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically, Talib Kweli. Truthfully I wanna rhyme like Common Sense But I did five mill' - I ain't been rhymin like Common since (Jay-Z)

I agree that it sounds like bullshit. According to interviews with Amber, she turned down CWDP because she didn't want Tara to come back as the First. This Joss interview was the first I'd heard of a planned actual Willow/Tara reunion. If that had been the proposed storyline, it seems like Amber would have jumped at it.

Somebody (Amber or Joss) is full of shit, and the fact that there is a shooting script of CWDP that has Tara in it seems to support Amber's story.


§ ita § - Jul 08, 2003 6:14:26 pm PDT #3232 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Joss made even a bit of sense ... but he doesn't. It didn't even read like he was trying. Which, as Allyson might contend, fits in with S7. Or as I might, fits in with the idea that ASH films with no pants on.


Maysa - Jul 08, 2003 6:19:00 pm PDT #3233 of 10001

If Tara had come back as a zombie, and eaten Kennedy's brains, I would have cheered.

Not enough wrod in the world.

I really think AB did the responsible thing in turning down appearing in S7. It was such a crappy misguided year, they would have utterly ruined squandered Tara anyway.

Oh, and I can't believe that Joss Whedon thought that the stupid "I may be dead, I may be evil, but either way I'm poorly written: The Rupert Giles Story" was amusing. Forget the whole part about it being a cheap trick, a lame stunt, and insulting to the audience. It just wasn't funny. I thought this man was supposed to know comedy.

t /bitter


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 08, 2003 8:01:27 pm PDT #3234 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I actually thought the not-touching thing was neat and anticipation-making back when I was first spoiled for it. Of course, at that point I assumed there would be a payoff of some sort.

Joss and other writers have talked about having so much to fit into this season that it didn't all work, but to me there were about 10 episodes that ran together with not much happening except for boring speeches to crowds of anonymous extras. Oh, and Andrew babbling on interminably, musn't forget that.

I think they would have been better served to do the first 2/3 of the season as monster-of-the week stories like "Same Time, Same Place" with the hunted potentials subplot on the back burner, and then kick the arc into high gear around eps 15/16 with "Conversations with Dead People" and the firebombing of Watcher Central.


Noumenon - Jul 08, 2003 8:13:11 pm PDT #3235 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

I actually thought the not-touching thing was neat and anticipation-making back when I was first spoiled for it.

For example, it spiced up the Eye of Beljoxa's prophecy for me to be worrying, "What if by explaining the prophecy to Giles, Anya is giving valuable information to the First?" And I was worried the first time they gave all the potentials weapons, because Giles had brought them and I thought they might all be traitors. (I hadn't figured out that the First was incorporeal at that point. Without Buffistas explaining things to me, I missed a lot of stuff. I didn't even know Giles wasn't acting normal except in "Lies My Parents Told Me.")


Connie Neil - Jul 08, 2003 8:14:56 pm PDT #3236 of 10001
brillig

"Two to Go" and "Grave" were on FX tonight. Oh, god, "I'd like to test that theory" and Dangerous!Giles, then Giggling!Giles ...


Fred Pete - Jul 09, 2003 4:04:01 am PDT #3237 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

I actually thought the not-touching thing was neat and anticipation-making back when I was first spoiled for it.

Would have been neater if there'd been some reason behind it. Even a 2-second throwaway line about how he injured his whatever fighting the Harbinger.


erikaj - Jul 09, 2003 5:38:36 am PDT #3238 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Also, insulting to Rupert Giles and a waste of ASH....It started so strong with "Do you want to be punished?"etc.


Gleebo - Jul 09, 2003 6:24:56 am PDT #3239 of 10001
"God...my brilliance is now becoming a bit of a burden...get back to me." Dr. Cox - Scrubs

For me all of the off kilter Giles in S7 was made up for it with the "Could it be any worse? I used to be a Watcher – now I'm a wounded dwarf with the strength of a doily." and the exact head tilt and delivery from the end of "The Harvest".