You go on to disparage this type of opinion posting. I'm sorry, but you are very wrong here. You seem to be saying that it's wrong for a person to look for the reasons why he/she feels something went wrong on the episode.

Not exactly no. It depends how it is presented. The thing is, if the debate is framed as "We all agree this sucks so let's debate why" then those of us who don't think it sucks are automatically excluded, and end up standing on the side going, "But...but..."

I'm not sure that presentation is something you can dictate. You are welcome to disagree with the person who says "We all agree" by saying that you don't agree. But that's really as far as you can go. I'm starting to see why you'd be frustrated because of a conversation like that, but I don't see any alternative other than not responding to those posts past that you don't agree with the premise. You can't tell people not to share opinions of dislike and debate the causes. Unless you have a suggestion for how this should be presented?

It seems to me this is the perfect place for opinions of all sorts to be thrown out there and we need to back off a bit from each other when we disagree.

Wrod.

I'm not sure that presentation is something you can dictate.

It isn't. I can point it out, explain my objections, but I wouldn't presume to dictate even if I had the power to do so.

Or...what Scrappy said. :)

Everybody needs to see the latest Dork Tower cartoon - it shows a fan's reaction to the ending of Buffy.

Bwah! Jeff - - that was priceless.

I watched both "The Prom" on FX and the A&E Biography and got all sniffly at both. It's been a while since I've watched "The Gift," and the clip they showed on A&E really got me. That music! My god, that music gets me every time. Even if I just listen to it without the visual.

I'm a relatively new Buffy fan -- I started watching the reruns on FX and then S6, but wow, did I fall in love with the show.

And lurking here for x number of months has been very entertaining and informative. You guys are, like, way cool. And stuff.

Welcome to the party circus jungle cult shrine melee hellmouth monkey asylum orgy support-group board, Alicia. Have a cookie.

Finally caught up here.(I watched the ep last night). The ep wasn't bad, though I'm getting a feeling of "too little, too late" on some of the stuff I did like. Also feeling a little frustrated by loose threads and lack of explanation on other stuff, but it's been hashed out here already.

Spike's ability to kill Wood-and his choice not to (for the moment)-was when I felt Spike had finally grown up.

See, this made my Spike hate go through the roof. Spike killed Wood's mother. This would have been a perfect opportunity to show that Spike had changed if he had shown remorse for the killing. If he had said, "I'm a different man now." Instead he takes back Wood's mother coat and Wood basically gets told by Buffy that Spike's life is worth more than Wood's. WTF? That pissed me off and showed me that souled Spike was no different than old Spike and it made me say, "Where'd our Buffy go and who is this heartless beyotch in her place?"

I'm glad Spike showed no remorse for the killing. If the man hadn't tried to kill him, I'd have been interested if he'd said "Sorry your mother's dead." But Spike killing Nikki was what Spike, and any vampire that could have, did. It's more their raison d'etre, only avoided through technological or magical means.

See, this made my Spike hate go through the roof. Spike killed Wood's mother. This would have been a perfect opportunity to show that Spike had changed if he had shown remorse for the killing. If he had said, "I'm a different man now." Instead he takes back Wood's mother coat and Wood basically gets told by Buffy that Spike's life is worth more than Wood's. WTF? That pissed me off and showed me that souled Spike was no different than old Spike and it made me say, "Where'd our Buffy go and who is this heartless beyotch in her place?"

Despite the uneven writing this season, I actually like souled!Spike. And not that I agree with this, but Spike's rationale is that he doesn't owe Wood an apology. Since he was evil Spike, and he's now good Spike, he's not the one who did the deed. And if Wood doesn't get that and wants to kill good Spike, then bugger 'em.

So Angel spends a century trying to atone for Angelus's sins, and Spike spends a few episodes as crazy loon, and then realizes souled!Spike is not responsible for evil!Spike's actions. He takes a moment, and moves on.