Heh. I was just looking at a poll asking people to list their three favorite Potentials. I couldn't even come up with one! (There were some that annoyed me less than others, but I never really liked any of them.)
Fred: It's the pictures in my mind that are getting me. It's like being stuck in a really bad movie with those Clockwork Orange clampy things on my eyeballs. Wesley: Why imagine? Reality's disturbing enough.
'Shells'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Rayne - Jun 13, 2003 11:24:17 am PDT #2655 of 10001
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire
Vortex - Jun 13, 2003 11:24:25 am PDT #2656 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Second regular Latina lesbian, actually.
okay, how I got from "second regular Latina lesbian" to first latina ever, i don't know. i guess i'm just tired :)
Lady O' Spain - Jun 13, 2003 11:28:21 am PDT #2657 of 10001
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.
Also, in my version Willow is bisexual. Unless Joss personally tells me otherwise.
It is hard to tell when they are being serious, but Joss and Marti have much to say about this in the commentary for Wild at Heart on the S4 DVD.
Haven't seen the DVD yet, but the way I've always wanked it is that Willow is bi (she was definately in love with both Oz and Tara) but describes herself as gay. As in, the character is making the mistake, not the writers. We could probably get into all kinds of nifty psychobabble about why Willow does this (trying to distance herself further from geeky high-school Willow?) and why no one on the show has called her on it (ignorance, probably. Or they just don't care that much about sexual identity politics, what with the demons and all.)
Of course, I also subscribe to the "sexuality is a continuum" theory, especially since, even though I'm straight and married, there are a few females I wouldn't kick out of my bed. Uh, y'know, if I weren't married...
tina f. - Jun 13, 2003 11:29:53 am PDT #2658 of 10001
I have those, yet I don't remember that commentary.
I may have mixed it up a little with other commentary and the special feature season overview thingy - I did a marathon watch of all things commented upon the night I got them. But there was lots of talk about Willow not being gay, straight or bi - but falling in love with Oz and then falling in love with Tara. (They were still in S6 when the commentary was done - so no mention of the dreaded Kennedy) And that being that. And then of course, there is also a lot of talk about how Oz "made" Willow gay - which is them, obviously, kidding - so take it all for what you will.
I always felt like Willow was bisexual personally. But I always felt that way about pretty much all of them so...
Lyra Jane - Jun 13, 2003 11:32:10 am PDT #2659 of 10001
Up with the sun
I thought Kennedy was supposed to be East Coast old money. Which is unlikely, if you're Latina.
That was my impression, as well. From her name I'd sort of vaguely thought the actress was of Arabic descent, but I'd never thought the character had a specific ethnicity.
Maybe Kennedy is Italian, and her family's in the mob.
Lyra Jane - Jun 13, 2003 11:36:38 am PDT #2660 of 10001
Up with the sun
the way I've always wanked it is that Willow is bi (she was definately in love with both Oz and Tara) but describes herself as gay. As in, the character is making the mistake, not the writers.
This is what I think, too. And I think she may say she's gay for political reasons (she is, after all, her mothers daughter), or because Oz hurt her so badly.
Vortex - Jun 13, 2003 11:37:37 am PDT #2661 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
Haven't seen the DVD yet, but the way I've always wanked it is that Willow is bi (she was definately in love with both Oz and Tara) but describes herself as gay.
The only time I can remember Willow describing herself as gay is the infamous "Gay now!" quote. (I could be wrong about this, as we see that I'm sketchy today). And in that case, it was to challenge Anya, and would not have been nearly as effective if she'd said "Bi now!"
Katie M - Jun 13, 2003 11:38:13 am PDT #2662 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Maybe Kennedy is Italian, and her family's in the mob.
Okay, see, this I like.
justkim - Jun 13, 2003 11:39:02 am PDT #2663 of 10001
Another social casualty...
I think that maybe Willow hasn't had enough relationships of either an intimate or a casual nature to really know for sure if she is lesbian or bi. I don't doubt for a minute that she loved Oz, and still does to some degree. I'm sure she loved Tara. And I'm sure she enjoys being with Kennedy.
I don't think we have seen enough of Willow really thinking about her sexuality to know for sure what she thinks other than that right now she identifies herself as lesbian. What happens to the character later is anyone's guess.
Jeff Mejia - Jun 13, 2003 11:43:43 am PDT #2664 of 10001
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert
The only time I can remember Willow describing herself as gay is the infamous "Gay now!" quote. (I could be wrong about this, as we see that I'm sketchy today). And in that case, it was to challenge Anya, and would not have been nearly as effective if she'd said "Bi now!"
She also identified herself as gay to the CoW in "Checkpoint", and there was the "and I think I'm kinda gay" quote in "Tabula Rasa" (which was slagged on these boards as being a retread), so it's not just one instance that Willow identifies herself as gay.