Buffistas

I've really got to learn to just do the damage and get out of town. It's the 'stay and gloat' that gets me every time.

Ethan Rayne ,'Potential'

Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.

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P.M. Marc - Jun 13, 2003 8:27:21 am PDT #2626 of 10001

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm not sure the character was given any specific ethnicity.

The decision to make Willow a lesbian instead of bisexual was problematic, as well, since Willow was clearly attracted to her boyfriend Oz in high school. It would have been more realistic and more groundbreaking if Willow had come out as bisexual (since that is never done on television), or at least had a discussion with Tara or Buffy about whether she was bisexual or a lesbian, instead of just pretending bisexuality didn't even exist.

Sigh. YES. Still kind of irks.

victor infante - Jun 13, 2003 8:30:07 am PDT #2627 of 10001

To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Ah, the revelations. Kennedy is hispanic, the first lesbian sex scene on netowrk television--and all this post-show.

I think that's all kind of the beauty of it...no one thought much about it because it was all so normal.

§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 8:32:57 am PDT #2628 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I thought Kennedy was supposed to be East Coast old money. Which is unlikely, if you're Latina.

Yes. Need more bisexuality on network (or any!) TV.

P.M. Marc - Jun 13, 2003 8:36:35 am PDT #2629 of 10001

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Need more bisexuality on network (or any!) TV.

CJ and Bayliss are NOT ENOUGH!!!!!!!

Damn it.

§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 8:38:45 am PDT #2630 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Which CJ is that? WW?

esse - Jun 13, 2003 8:39:34 am PDT #2631 of 10001

S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Mmmm. Bayliss.

Is anyone getting the HLotS dvds?

Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:28 am PDT #2632 of 10001

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Need more bisexuality on network (or any!) TV.

Sadly, I think the only bisexuality that your average network executive will tolerate is from his mistress. And maybe his wife if he gets to watch.

Burrell - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:54 am PDT #2633 of 10001

Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

instead of just pretending bisexuality didn't even exist.

While I agree with this last point, I think it's fine to have Willow be gay, not bisexual. But then again, I think that sexuality is pretty fluid. I have known some women who saw themselves as straight and then, later, gay. I think it's different than someone who sees herself as bisexual. So while I agree it would have been nice to have Willow see herself as bisexual, I think that "gay now" is equally valid.

Cindy - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:55 am PDT #2634 of 10001

Nobody

Kennedy was money, not old money. Someone in NAFDA (Madrigal, maybe?) objected to her having the name 'Kennedy' because old money wouldn't do that, and then we had this big conversation, because it was never said she was old money, and - in fact - as far as the East Coast is concerned, the Kennedy's aren't old money, either. So it probably got stuck in your head as a Kennedy fact, when it was just Buffistas being Buffistas.

Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 13, 2003 8:42:11 am PDT #2635 of 10001

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

CJ was from L.A. Law, yes? Amanda Donahoe's character?

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