Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:28 am PDT #2632 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Need more bisexuality on network (or any!) TV.

Sadly, I think the only bisexuality that your average network executive will tolerate is from his mistress. And maybe his wife if he gets to watch.


Burrell - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:54 am PDT #2633 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

instead of just pretending bisexuality didn't even exist.

While I agree with this last point, I think it's fine to have Willow be gay, not bisexual. But then again, I think that sexuality is pretty fluid. I have known some women who saw themselves as straight and then, later, gay. I think it's different than someone who sees herself as bisexual. So while I agree it would have been nice to have Willow see herself as bisexual, I think that "gay now" is equally valid.


Cindy - Jun 13, 2003 8:40:55 am PDT #2634 of 10001
Nobody

Kennedy was money, not old money. Someone in NAFDA (Madrigal, maybe?) objected to her having the name 'Kennedy' because old money wouldn't do that, and then we had this big conversation, because it was never said she was old money, and - in fact - as far as the East Coast is concerned, the Kennedy's aren't old money, either. So it probably got stuck in your head as a Kennedy fact, when it was just Buffistas being Buffistas.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 13, 2003 8:42:11 am PDT #2635 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

CJ was from L.A. Law, yes? Amanda Donahoe's character?


Burrell - Jun 13, 2003 8:43:12 am PDT #2636 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Was Bayliss actually bisexual? I thought he referred to himself as ::shudder:: bicurious.


§ ita § - Jun 13, 2003 8:45:21 am PDT #2637 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gay/Lesbian/Bi characters on TV in the 90s.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2003 8:45:41 am PDT #2638 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Ah, Amanda Donahoe. Whatever happened to her? She had quite the career there for a few years, especially the Ken Russell movies, and then poof vanished. Off to the imdb (well maybe later, I really have to get my day started - Buffistas are addicitve).


candyb - Jun 13, 2003 8:46:28 am PDT #2639 of 10001

Is anyone getting the HLotS dvds?

Me! I'm so excited. I'm hopelessly hooked on The Wire, was very moved by the The Corner. Can't wait to see HLotS and this Bayliss guy. Mr Simon's got an amazing character on The Wire, Omar, who is an wide-openly gay and hard-core drug-dealin thug and stick-up kid. He roolz.


Anne W. - Jun 13, 2003 8:47:53 am PDT #2640 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

I remember Bayliss as saying something along the lines of "just because I've had sex with men doesn't mean I'm gay."


esse - Jun 13, 2003 8:48:09 am PDT #2641 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

What's "The Wire" about? I keep hearing about it, though I hadn't until about a week and a half ago.