Does that make the original UberVamp the Turok Han Solo?
Snerk
Was anybody else afraid for a second when Buffy said "I love you" that Spike was going to say "I know"?
Gwen: Demon, OK? The whole nine—cloven feet and horns and teeth. He wasn't wearing lamé though. Lorne: Yeah, the evil ones can't pull it off. It gets camp.
'Harm's Way'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Trudy Booth - May 25, 2003 3:29:07 pm PDT #2280 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
DCJensen - May 25, 2003 3:39:23 pm PDT #2281 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Was anybody else afraid for a second when Buffy said "I love you" that Spike was going to say "I know"?
No but I thought of Riley.
"But she doesn't love me."
scrappy - May 25, 2003 3:52:30 pm PDT #2282 of 10001
Nobody
Spike's glowy death may have been a big emotional moment, and pretty, too, but in bigness of action, Buffy, all on her own, outrunning the implosion and leaping tall buildings in (almost) a single bound is literally larger.
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2003 3:52:45 pm PDT #2283 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Trudy, OMG, that's frickin' hysterical. No I didn't, but kinda glad about that. I can enjoy the snerk now, but it would have distracted me then.
ETA What Scrappy said.
Micole - May 25, 2003 4:02:55 pm PDT #2284 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.
bigness of action, Buffy, all on her own, outrunning the implosion and leaping tall buildings in (almost) a single bound is literally larger.
Sure. But it's not an action that defeats the villain of the season or Its minions, which is why I consider it "denoument" rather than "climax."
Emphasis on the *I*, because while denoument and climax may have objective definitions as ideas, pinpointing their occurences in individual works will always be a somewhat subjective endeavor.
SailAweigh - May 25, 2003 4:06:03 pm PDT #2285 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
I liked the end, with Buffy just smiling. It had the feel of Scarlett at the end of GWTW saying, "I'll think about it tomorrow" (or whatever exactly it was). Buffy is in a good place for her emotionally. Spike's question in "Beneath You" has finally been answered and, yes, they can both rest. (In peace in Spike's case, sniff).
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2003 4:09:09 pm PDT #2286 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well, is the FE even dead? I doubt it. Just it's current plan is spoiled, and now it's a much bigger problem to go around trying to pick off the slayers. Spike didn't really have much to do with that, he just took out the immediate threat - the hellmouth. Not that that's nothing, but not necessarily the be-all-end-all. And of course, he had nothing to do with making Caleb biscectual. In a sense, it was Willow who was the big hero, if it was anyone.
Burrell - May 25, 2003 4:13:46 pm PDT #2287 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Wasn't part of the point that it's not about THE Hero anymore? There's plenty of heroic to go around, some of it big--Spike--and some of it small--Anya--but none of it meaningless.
Frankenbuddha - May 25, 2003 4:18:58 pm PDT #2288 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Yes, Burrell, exactly that. Which is why the FE is mostly frelled.
SailAweigh - May 25, 2003 4:21:26 pm PDT #2289 of 10001
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
Exactly Burrell, we're all heroes of our own story. Seeing all the potentials coming into their own power shows us that. They may not know about vampires and demons, but they know about their own personal demons and that they now have the power to triumph over them.