You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Allyson - May 14, 2003 5:51:53 pm PDT #223 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Has Giles EVER, in 7 seasons, said "I love you, Buffy"?

nit: "And it grieves me cuz I love you so" OMWF

Fury thought that the scene in Helpless didnt really need Quentin's "You have a father's love for the child."

He felt it was shown. In the end, they decided to tell, anyway. I always thought the scene didn't need the line. I had been shown that Giles loved Buffy as a daughter, time and again. I didnt need friggin Travers to tell me what I had been shown.


Steph L. - May 14, 2003 5:52:32 pm PDT #224 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

FX is showing "The Prom" right now. I have already cried at:

Buffy: "I want my life to be with you."
Angel: "I don't."

And

"I can't breathe, Will! I feel like I can't breathe...."

And it's almost time for the Class Protector award.


balzacq - May 14, 2003 5:53:21 pm PDT #225 of 10001
Evil Hand Issues

In the same vein, when Quentin told Giles, "You have a father's love for the child, Rupert," that's a telling that worked, because it had already been shown, in Helpless itself, and in the series as a whole.

And when Xander tells Buffy (cudgeling my memory here), "Riley really loves you, and you're being a moron 'cause you really love him too, but you're being stubborn and you'll lose him forever," it worked for me since to my mind that had already been shown over the course of the season. So for me, that speech showed the "sees through other people's bullshit" ability that's one of Xander's main characteristics, even though he was entirely talking about other people's feelings.


Cindy - May 14, 2003 5:53:43 pm PDT #226 of 10001
Nobody

Jilli - it's at buffy.nu It's the FHM interview.

Eh, people always have beefs. Unnamed sources gossiping in a tabloid are not the most reliable sources.

There are a bunch of links there with Amber and James mentioning how they love Sarah. Maybe Star Magazine's unnamed source was a wardrobe person, and erm... if SMG was bitchy to them this season, I can understand why. I actually missed the eye-bleed-causing ensemble from The Replacement this season.

He felt it was shown. In the end, they decided to tell, anyway. I always thought the scene didn't need the line. I had been shown that Giles loved Buffy as a daughter, time and again. I didnt need friggin Travers to tell me what I had been shown.

It worked for me, because I can buy that Giles needed to be told.


Betsy HP - May 14, 2003 5:54:01 pm PDT #227 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

not the only type; and it seems like the latter is the position you're advocating.

No, no, no. The arrow runs the other way. I'm saying "If it's told instead of shown, it's probably bad writing". There are many various ways to write badly, and I've committed most of them myself.


Steph L. - May 14, 2003 5:58:06 pm PDT #228 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Damn allergies. The Class Protector gets me every time.

Plus, I just look at them all there -- Xander with both eyes, Willow before she went bad and had her lover die in her arms (reverse that order), Giles being Giles, Anya before the insensitivity got old, and Buffy relatively happy -- and want to warn them all what's coming.

::sniff::


Betsy HP - May 14, 2003 5:59:07 pm PDT #229 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

"Get out now while you still can! I hear there's a place where everybody knows your name!"


jengod - May 14, 2003 6:00:07 pm PDT #230 of 10001

That wrap-party Sarah-sucks glee article is hysterical!


Steph L. - May 14, 2003 6:00:46 pm PDT #231 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

"Get out now while you still can! I hear there's a place where everybody knows your name!"

Oh, man. Seriously.


Aims - May 14, 2003 6:01:07 pm PDT #232 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And it's almost time for the Class Protector award.

Favorite. Buffy Moment. Ever. I get the allergies, too Steph.