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Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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balzacq - May 14, 2003 5:53:21 pm PDT #225 of 10001
Evil Hand Issues

In the same vein, when Quentin told Giles, "You have a father's love for the child, Rupert," that's a telling that worked, because it had already been shown, in Helpless itself, and in the series as a whole.

And when Xander tells Buffy (cudgeling my memory here), "Riley really loves you, and you're being a moron 'cause you really love him too, but you're being stubborn and you'll lose him forever," it worked for me since to my mind that had already been shown over the course of the season. So for me, that speech showed the "sees through other people's bullshit" ability that's one of Xander's main characteristics, even though he was entirely talking about other people's feelings.


Cindy - May 14, 2003 5:53:43 pm PDT #226 of 10001
Nobody

Jilli - it's at buffy.nu It's the FHM interview.

Eh, people always have beefs. Unnamed sources gossiping in a tabloid are not the most reliable sources.

There are a bunch of links there with Amber and James mentioning how they love Sarah. Maybe Star Magazine's unnamed source was a wardrobe person, and erm... if SMG was bitchy to them this season, I can understand why. I actually missed the eye-bleed-causing ensemble from The Replacement this season.

He felt it was shown. In the end, they decided to tell, anyway. I always thought the scene didn't need the line. I had been shown that Giles loved Buffy as a daughter, time and again. I didnt need friggin Travers to tell me what I had been shown.

It worked for me, because I can buy that Giles needed to be told.


Betsy HP - May 14, 2003 5:54:01 pm PDT #227 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

not the only type; and it seems like the latter is the position you're advocating.

No, no, no. The arrow runs the other way. I'm saying "If it's told instead of shown, it's probably bad writing". There are many various ways to write badly, and I've committed most of them myself.


Steph L. - May 14, 2003 5:58:06 pm PDT #228 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Damn allergies. The Class Protector gets me every time.

Plus, I just look at them all there -- Xander with both eyes, Willow before she went bad and had her lover die in her arms (reverse that order), Giles being Giles, Anya before the insensitivity got old, and Buffy relatively happy -- and want to warn them all what's coming.

::sniff::


Betsy HP - May 14, 2003 5:59:07 pm PDT #229 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

"Get out now while you still can! I hear there's a place where everybody knows your name!"


jengod - May 14, 2003 6:00:07 pm PDT #230 of 10001

That wrap-party Sarah-sucks glee article is hysterical!


Steph L. - May 14, 2003 6:00:46 pm PDT #231 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

"Get out now while you still can! I hear there's a place where everybody knows your name!"

Oh, man. Seriously.


Aims - May 14, 2003 6:01:07 pm PDT #232 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

And it's almost time for the Class Protector award.

Favorite. Buffy Moment. Ever. I get the allergies, too Steph.


Miss Vanna - May 14, 2003 6:01:43 pm PDT #233 of 10001
I 've been hands under the shirt, over the bra, Calvins in a wad on the front seat with some S7 Buffy spoilers - but we never went all the way ~tinaf

Oh, the Buffy Angel dance...I'm sobbing.


Cindy - May 14, 2003 6:01:54 pm PDT #234 of 10001
Nobody

And when Xander tells Buffy (cudgeling my memory here), "Riley really loves you, and you're being a moron 'cause you really love him too, but you're being stubborn and you'll lose him forever," it worked for me since to my mind that had already been shown over the course of the season. So for me, that speech showed the "sees through other people's bullshit" ability that's one of Xander's main characteristics, even though he was entirely talking about other people's feelings

Possibly. The Xander point wasn't mine (and wouldn't have been) so I'm not inclined to defend it. I was too angered by the wrongness of what he was saying, to ever give it enough thought to decide they were "telling" not "showing". That might be the *one* thing Xander ever did on the show that seriously pissed me off.