The sex is really a separate issue. Though, were I forced to link them, I would probably argue that in Entropy, Buffy told Spike she wouldn't sleep with him because she didn't love him, so if she did sleep with him, that means she loves him.
I think she loves him. I don't think she's (necessarily) in love with him, or rather, knows she's not in a healthy/right place to be thinking about "in-love" stuff.
I think she (was?) in love with Angel. I don't necessarily know that she loved him. That may make no sense to anyone who isn't in my my-kids-were-nuts-today brain.
At any rate though, it's why the cookie dough thing worked for me. It's an apt (and appropriately Buffy-corny) analogy.
When I can think, I'm going to go through some episodes and pull out examples of where and when I think Buffy indicated to Spike (in a way that wasn't an anvil for us, but would have been clear to him - in a between-them sort of way) that she wasn't ready. It's not only limited to End of Days.
I can't even analyze the episode yet. I didn't take notes (which is the first time in a long time) and when I start to think of the episode, I flash immediately to the four standing face to face, Giles splintering off with the WTTH/TH echo, Willow going off and then Xander and Buffy's hand squeeze. And again I break.
And to whomever noted upstream that that was a perfect reverse order of how they met, and found it significant, I'd just just like to say that I did, too. I meant to remember to note it last night, but I forgot in all the tears.
This episode made me happy that the show is over. It ended it exactly (if we're not counting nits, and I'm not) how I wanted it to end. It hit all the right emotional notes, and it was what the series deserved.
Wrod, Cindy. Plus all the possible storylines leading off into the distance... mmmm.
All I thought about was the destruction of the family photos (which would be the one thing I'd grab if I had to jump out of the window to escape a fire).
I came late to the show, S2 reruns, start of S3. Came waaaay late to the Buffistas party.
So did I Sean. Exactly then for the series, and the Buffistas is foggy to me. They were already at WXing, but I lurked for so long. I've been out of lurk for maybe a year, I think.
All I thought about was the destruction of the family photos (which would be the one thing I'd grab if I had to jump out of the window to escape a fire).
We can fanwank those, and some important watcher-style texts right onto that school bus. I know I am.
All I thought about was the destruction of the family photos
Of *everything.*
Mr. Gordo. The cross Angel gave her. The Class Protector Award. Her well-worn VHS copy of The Cutting Edge....
Damn, Teppy, there go the allergies again.
Mr. Gordo. The cross Angel gave her. The Class Protector Award. Her well-worn VHS copy of The Cutting Edge....
They're on the bus, Teppy. They're on the bus.
Yeah. They had the forethought to clear out the high school at the end of season 3, why did they not think to clear out the Summers household?
Ah! My eyes. I tried catching up on all the posts but I think I'm getting eyestrain. Ow!
Anyway, I had to stop a hundred plus from the current chatter but I just wanted to make a few comments.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at the start of the season none of the creative staff knew if SMG was going to sign on for another season or not? That in itself must have severly impacted their ability to craft the arc for the season.
Anyway, for me the only major failure of the season was its treatment of the core characters. I wanted this season to be loaded with resolution, not just the last episode but many loose plot or interpersonal threads. Throughout the season. When it's time for closure tripling the size of the speaking cast is not a good idea. Ultimately I felt short changed on Willow, Xander and Giles.
Within the boundaries of the plot that S7 gave us, this is what I've had wanted changed in my perfect world.
1) Once the First was identified I'd have liked to have seen the deathtoll start climbing. I'd have wittled at the potentials harder and leave a smaller cast for the latter episodes. Those potentials that would have survived that long would have 'earned' the right to steal more of our limited time with the core four.
2) Caleb would have turned up a few episodes earlier. Then we'd have longer to bask in the best villain dialogue since the Mayor. Caleb was so much more entertaining than the First.
3) Anya would have died killing Caleb. Vengeance Demon Champion of Women vs The Ultimate Misogynist.
4) Spike would have got it exactly the way he did. That really was perfect.
5) I'd have paid good money to have had just one last scene before the Grr Argh!:
A man carrying a backpack stands at the lip of the Sunnydale Crater. He has obviously walked a long way to get here and now facing the desolation he is practically dumbfounded. His face shows a little confusion and possibly regret. His eyebrow raises -
OZ - "Oh."
