For an excellent example of Good Television, watch the last few episodes of 24. Or the whole damn season. But definitely last night's episode. I was literally on the edge of my seat. The entire time.
Word, Wolf. Word.
Right, there comes a point where you have to either move on, or just buy yourself a Klingon costume and go with it.
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Sean K - May 14, 2003 3:50:17 pm PDT #145 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Miss Vanna - May 14, 2003 3:51:57 pm PDT #146 of 10001
I 've been hands under the shirt, over the bra, Calvins in a wad on the front seat with some S7 Buffy spoilers - but we never went all the way ~tinaf
Loved the Python shoutout, makes me want to watch both that and Cutting Edge. Perhaps when I get home from the Matrix showing tonight. :-)
Wolfram, I too am a slave to 24, I adore that show, but I still get the "damn, only 8 minutes left" thing of Buffy now and then. I'm a sucker, but I liked the Angel stuff...I rewatched the show today just to validate all my opinions. When Angel appeared, did anyone else notice the glint off his tooth? Like something out a cheese commercial? Although I have to agree with whoever said DB looked super yummy when they did that. Destiny, I tell you, destiny. IMO, Spike belongs with Dru anyway.
§ ita § - May 14, 2003 3:54:26 pm PDT #147 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hmm. I watch 24 pretty avidly, but I do my special TiVo watch for about half of it -- fast forward with CC on. I don't look for nuanced or consistent characterisation. I don't look for any sort of plausibility. I look to be startled. But the most startling thing they could do is write Jack's daughter not as a moron.
It's fun TV (for me), it's often exciting, and last season it was innovative, but right now, no, I'd not call it Good, not even remotely.
Such is the power of relativity.
mikal - May 14, 2003 3:55:33 pm PDT #148 of 10001
What I love most about you core whores: the foreplay .... tina F.
Great commentary folks. I have only one ...... that the Buffy/Angel kiss appeared to me to be only one of old friends re-uniting. I didn't get anything really erotic from it. Loved the look on Spike's face at the end. That is all. Looking bitterlysweet forward to next week.
Miss Vanna - May 14, 2003 3:57:25 pm PDT #149 of 10001
I 've been hands under the shirt, over the bra, Calvins in a wad on the front seat with some S7 Buffy spoilers - but we never went all the way ~tinaf
Ita, I think they should have killed Jack's daughter off last year instead of his wife, Kim is a huge pain in everyone's ass and her storylines suck. I think it's good, because it's tense, but I although i'd call it good, I wouldn't call it Better Than Buffy. Just cause...well...loyalty and all that.
DCJensen - May 14, 2003 3:57:38 pm PDT #150 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.
Yes! And I said to a friend, "Python reference!" And then discovered that she's never seen Holy Grail and didn't get the joke. It was sad.
It *is* sad when good friends miss good movies.
Miss Vanna - May 14, 2003 3:59:18 pm PDT #151 of 10001
I 've been hands under the shirt, over the bra, Calvins in a wad on the front seat with some S7 Buffy spoilers - but we never went all the way ~tinaf
Yes! And I said to a friend, "Python reference!" And then discovered that she's never seen Holy Grail and didn't get the joke. It was sad.
It *is* sad when good friends miss good movies.
Friends don't let friends miss Python.
candyb - May 14, 2003 3:59:21 pm PDT #152 of 10001
I didn't get anything really erotic from it. Loved the look on Spike's face at the end. That is all. Looking bitterlysweet forward to next week.
I think that was the main reason for the kiss.
Sean K - May 14, 2003 4:00:30 pm PDT #153 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Yeah, I'm all kinds of ready for Kim Bauer to die.
In fact, a friend and I had a great dream!season where Kim died in the cougar trap, and every now and then, they could just flash back to her dead body, lying in the woods.
Steph L. - May 14, 2003 4:11:53 pm PDT #154 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
I hope it doesn't come as too much of a shock that I strongly disagree-that I think much of the season has been about showing Spike's rocky path to redemption
Yeah, but...show not called "Spike."
Show called "Buffy." About whom I feel I learned NOTHING this season.