Mal: So we run. Nandi: I understand, Captain Reynolds. You have your people to think of, same as me. And this ain't your fight. Mal: Don't believe you do understand, Nandi. I said 'we run'. We.

'Heart Of Gold'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Trudy Booth - May 20, 2003 10:08:10 pm PDT #1398 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The crossover wasn't pointless! It was t deep breath BUFFYNANGLE4EvAHHHHH!!!1!!

(I've already argued this point with Steph)


Frankenbuddha - May 20, 2003 10:08:59 pm PDT #1399 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What Deena said.

About RL and the episode.

And about beating me up - what can I say, it's a fair cop. I KNEW it was a cheap shot. I just relieved some other wise-ass from the burden.


Ice - May 20, 2003 10:09:22 pm PDT #1400 of 10001
The longer I stay awake tonight, the more time I have before tomorrow begins.

Love is fantastic. Especially in the early days. My husband and I had to stage our first fight because our college roommates were getting a little tired of all the blissful sappiness we were throwing off.

It's way past time to go to sleep but my brain doesn't want to stop thinking about Buffy and what. happens. next. Tellmetellmenow.


Micole - May 20, 2003 10:18:03 pm PDT #1401 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I am really deeply cranky, because I saw the finale at a friend's party and came home to find out my mother had FUCKED WITH THE VCR SETTINGS AND I DO NOT HAVE CHOSEN, I HAVE 70 FUCKING MINUTES OF ABC.

And one of the reasons I'm really cranky about this is that I disliked a lot of the episode on first watch, and I suspected that I'd like it better on repeated viewings, and I *wanted* to like it better.

So on first watch:

(1) I SO TOTALLY CALLED IT. Okay, I didn't, I thought Buffy would have to give up her own power somehow and then get it back, but I called the empowering other Slayers thing. Along with Cindy and a lot of other people. But in any case I feel smug.

(2) Things I loved: the core four in the hallway. The obvious question at the end, and Buffy's big huge grin. It was obvious. I don't care. It was right. Lots of random continuity goodness. (Cleveland! I laughed and laughed. Better than finding out what happened to Miss Kitty Fantastico.)

(3) Things that frustrate the hell out of me: This is *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*, so why is Spike the one to make the ultimate heroic sacrifice of the episode? Why does the episode continue the season trend of taking a promising setup and ... getting rid of it? Giles didn't touch anyone because ... the writers thought it would be really funny? The Giles characterization was screwy because everyone forgot how to write? The First was determined to keep Spike around so his jealousy could cause him to ... make a really funny pencil sketch of Angel? Angel came around so ... Spike could get jealous and nothing would happen? Buffy and her friends have a huge argument so ... Buffy could return an episode later and everyone would be good as new? WTF?

Edited to white out the dissatisfactions, because people who want to revel deserve at least a night of revelry.


Deena - May 20, 2003 10:18:20 pm PDT #1402 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

(okay, okay, I like Ken too... sheesh)

I gotta head for bed too. Goodnight all. Buffy dreams to you. Only, you know, not her dreams... never mind.


scrappy - May 20, 2003 10:19:24 pm PDT #1403 of 10001
Nobody

RL!!!! Yay for Love!!!

And I loved the ep. Much and much. I was spoiled for a lot of it and it STILL made me tear up several times.


Kat - May 20, 2003 10:20:39 pm PDT #1404 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I liked the episode with a deep well of liking it. But I am also pondering now. There were so many loose ties from this whole season, like life, that never got retied (like remember way back when we all though telepathy was going to be a big thing? Apparently no... just a one ep deal).

I liked the idea of all the girls getting the power, that Buffy finally basically said fuck you to hierarchy of the watchers.

And Giles. He was all Gilesy again. Not weird stiff man, but actually Gilesy!

Anya dead makes me sad. Spike, not so much since he went down a hero. I giggle that he's actually more of a Champion (cause you know, Vampire with a Soul, plays important role and all that....) than Angel.

I yearn for the Angel drawing on the punching bag.

BTW, I'm oddly feeling like The Gift was actually the real finale. This didn't feel like a series ender - just a season one.


deborah grabien - May 20, 2003 10:22:32 pm PDT #1405 of 10001
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.

Love rocks. It really does.

Right this moment and yes, I know I'm going to get my arse thoroughly kicked, but right this moment I am resentful as hell of all things freaking FIREFLY because if it wasn't for being bored with Buffy and wanting to do freaking FIREFLY, we could have had the last two seasons of the kind of writing we had tonight.

Joss, oh man, oh Joss. Every single nosepull snarky tearmaking whack upside the head.

But is Spike dead? Was all that about him being on Angel next season just a crock?


Kat - May 20, 2003 10:22:35 pm PDT #1406 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

AND! I'd like to say, this is my first spoiler free season. I'm officially saying that ita was right. For me, it's a more enjoyable experience to watch when I'm spoiled free. Too bad I'm already casting spoiled for Angel for next season.


askye - May 20, 2003 10:23:13 pm PDT #1407 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Everyone's mentioning the hall way scene where the Core and Giles were talking about shopping, was I the only one who thought the sound was out of synch there?

It just sounded weird and for a minute I thought I was hearing the thoughts that were in their heads.