Love rocks. It really does.

Right this moment and yes, I know I'm going to get my arse thoroughly kicked, but right this moment I am resentful as hell of all things freaking FIREFLY because if it wasn't for being bored with Buffy and wanting to do freaking FIREFLY, we could have had the last two seasons of the kind of writing we had tonight.

Joss, oh man, oh Joss. Every single nosepull snarky tearmaking whack upside the head.

But is Spike dead? Was all that about him being on Angel next season just a crock?

AND! I'd like to say, this is my first spoiler free season. I'm officially saying that ita was right. For me, it's a more enjoyable experience to watch when I'm spoiled free. Too bad I'm already casting spoiled for Angel for next season.

Everyone's mentioning the hall way scene where the Core and Giles were talking about shopping, was I the only one who thought the sound was out of synch there?

It just sounded weird and for a minute I thought I was hearing the thoughts that were in their heads.

Um, Deb. Spoilery about Angel?

I loved it even more on rewatch (which I just did). But I'm not going tro argue with anyone who didn't-I'm only sorry everyone didn't get the Buffy ending they wanted (if it had to end)-as I did. But it was never possible that we were all going to be happy.

Micole - I totally agree with the whole why did they bother with throwing Buffy out of the house.

Really, what purpose did it serve?

I spent two years fighting this show.

I have no more interest in fighting anymore.

Buffy got out of town.

That's all I could have asked for her.

Buffy got out of town. She did it before, for the wrong reasons, and at the wrong times. But the impulse was pure.

Whatever happens now is her choice.

But it's not about that bloody town anymore.

Ginger- that would be right. the funny thing is, one of my great quotes from Faulkner is some callow journalist asking him why southern writers are the way they are, and Faulkner's grey haired whisky soaked answer was simply "we lost."

there's a firefly thing there, but not tonight.

Buffy lost. and in losing, won.

Buffy wins. and in winning, loses

that's what she does.

Buffy's my girl. because the outcome isn't the point.

that's what i'll never get over.

that's why i pretty much loved everyone tonight.

i'm thinking of joyce and buffy, on her birthday, with the cupcake candles of lame motherhood. in their white sweats. goodnight, sweetheart, goodnight.

"i'll just let it burn."

she was never going to win. she was always going to win.

define win.

buffy is dead. long live buffy.

why is Spike the one to make the ultimate heroic sacrifice of the episode?

Because if Buffy did, she'd be dead. No, really. I think Spike was as close to Buffy as she could stand to lose and come out feeling positive. Because they'd achieved closure. And somehow Spike made it seem inevitable.

Yeah, it didn't fix oddjob Giles, and other stuff. But it was nice.

Why did they throw out Buffy? Because this speech was a good speech, this plan was DIFFERENT. When she said what would make it different, I cheered. Because she'd learnt.

This is *Buffy the Vampire Slayer*, so why is Spike the one to make the ultimate heroic sacrifice of the episode?

... because if you don't think that tell us just about all we need to know about our girl Buffy, then you watched a different show to me.

Buffy was the why.

The how doesn't so much matter, does it?

edited for clarity