Wesley: Feng Shui. Gunn: Right. What's that mean again? Wesley: That people will believe anything. Actually, in this place, Feng Shui will probably have enormous significance. I'll align my furniture the wrong way and suddenly catch fire or turn into a pudding.

'Conviction (1)'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sean K - Mar 31, 2004 7:32:54 am PST #8533 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I get someone who made a bunch of big allegations and didn't want to take the responsibility for defending them so he reacted to questioning with more big allegations, which is not a great behavioral pattern, but I don't think he wants to be Board Dictator.

Yeah, okay. I was being snotty.

I know there are some people, many of whom I respect and care for a great deal, who have said there is some validity to Rafmun's point, and I will go back and read those people's posts, and give them long consideration, and think hard about where I fit in to that, and anything I may need to do to change.

If people I respect commented on it, I suppose there's something there.

But as far as Rafmun is concerned, I think you're a troll. You (and others) may decide that means I'm a mean, rotten ol' bastard, but I can point to exactly why I think that (which I have done), and tell you to your face, rather than coyly hinting at it.


lori - Mar 31, 2004 7:34:13 am PST #8534 of 10005

Cindy has left as well

Cindy is still here posting as Xanderella.


Sean K - Mar 31, 2004 7:35:24 am PST #8535 of 10005
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, the reasons Cindy left are not quite covered under Rafmun's point, either.


Jesse - Mar 31, 2004 7:36:07 am PST #8536 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Right on, Kate. Thanks, bicylcops. See, this is the kind of thing I love about us. People do take the extra step.

And seriously, I really hope the people who think the board as a whole is getting snotty will call people on it, when specific things are said. In thread or over email, if that's too public for you. It's hard to step back and take a look at your actions if the only feedback you're getting is that they are OK.


Steph L. - Mar 31, 2004 7:36:26 am PST #8537 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Oh my God.

It's The Yoko Factor.

Jesus Fucking Christ.


billytea - Mar 31, 2004 7:37:53 am PST #8538 of 10005
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

It's The Yoko Factor.

I'm listening to INXS right now and you've still earwormed me with "Dear Yoko". Damn you! DAMN YOUUUU!!!


Dana - Mar 31, 2004 7:38:16 am PST #8539 of 10005
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Okay, so in the interests of talking about the issue, rather than the personalities, what is it we need to do? Beej's e-mail suggested that she didn't think things were spelled out clearly enough in the FAQ/ettiquette.

Do we need to add stuff to the site ettiquette along the lines of "just about everyone feels ignored at one point or another" and "no one person speaks for the board" and "we value our independence, so anything that smacks of preaching will garner a very bad reaction"?


JZ - Mar 31, 2004 7:38:27 am PST #8540 of 10005
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Cindy is still here posting as Xanderella.

Also, IIRC, she pulled back from heavy posting not because of issues with board management or individual posters, but just because it was becoming an unmanageable timesuck for her.

Also, I want to marry Matt's post, and I want all of Nutty's laws and corollaries on a t-shirt.


Scrappy - Mar 31, 2004 7:38:32 am PST #8541 of 10005
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Teppy, what are you talking about?


Jesse - Mar 31, 2004 7:39:53 am PST #8542 of 10005
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Do we need to add stuff to the site ettiquette along the lines of "just about everyone feels ignored at one point or another" and "no one person speaks for the board" and "we value our independence, so anything that smacks of preaching will garner a very bad reaction"?

Yes, please. In filk.