Reavers ain't men. Or they forgot how to be. Now they're just nothing. They got out to the edge of the galaxy, to that place of nothing, and that's what they became.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Elena - Apr 16, 2003 9:52:57 am PDT #430 of 10005
Thanks for all the fish.

Wait a sec, she hasn't been banned?

I think that's the first order of business, since her behaviour is clearly in violation of - hmm, CS, common sense, politeness, reasonability.

(edit) Are our profiles (and e-mail addresses) only viewable by registered members?


PaulJ - Apr 16, 2003 9:55:47 am PDT #431 of 10005

Oficially, she has been suspended for two months, right? Which means that, on June 15th, if the consensus of the community is that she has shown signs of being able to coexist with others, she will be here again...


DXMachina - Apr 16, 2003 9:58:48 am PDT #432 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

When she made the threats, she violated etiquette again, so the ban is automatic. I don't even think we have to discuss it at this point. She's done for good here and on WX already. ita e-mailed Lance to figure out what to do about PF.


Cindy - Apr 16, 2003 10:01:06 am PDT #433 of 10005
Nobody

DXMachina - Apr 16, 2003 10:03:31 am PDT #434 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I know DX agreed that she probably should be.

I should've been clearer. Violating etiquette while under suspension is an automatic ban.


Wolfram - Apr 16, 2003 10:04:40 am PDT #435 of 10005
Visilurking

Isn't a ban just an indefinite suspension? What I mean is, isn't it just a matter of never unlocking her account, or is there another procedure? FWIW, you can put me in the ban her indefinitely corner, because it's become clear to me that she's a troll.


DXMachina - Apr 16, 2003 10:06:02 am PDT #436 of 10005
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Isn't a ban just an indefinite suspension? What I mean is, isn't it just a matter of never unlocking her account

Correct.


amych - Apr 16, 2003 10:07:27 am PDT #437 of 10005
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Technically, it's a matter of never unlocking the account -- we don't delete the account, because then the name would be free for her or someone else to register with it again. Policy-wise, it's a matter of never unlocking and never going to, either.


Wolfram - Apr 16, 2003 10:08:02 am PDT #438 of 10005
Visilurking

So no further action is needed. She's banned, then. (I think.)


Trudy Booth - Apr 16, 2003 10:08:12 am PDT #439 of 10005
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

He just asked what had happened to the Phoenix (as far as I saw, I don't know if he went over to NAFDA). I didn't think it was a big deal. Had he joined in the discussion, I would've had a problem.

That seems like a letter of the law/spirit of the law thing. I mean, if someone slipped back in under a new name and was perfectly nice and we found out a year later would we ban them for life? I'd vote nah.

I disagree, Trudy. We should correct the wording for any future warnings, but Zoe's posting of insults and threats in People's Forums clearly indicates that she's not willing to abide by community standards. I don't think we need to communicate with her any further.

Hmmm... very good point. She can't log on and then figures out "guess they mean here too". What the heck.

I don't want to belittle Cindy's feelings IN ANY WAY here but I think the forever ban right now would be overkill since she was already told it was temporary. She acts like a dick in three months or she sneaks on now and THEN we can do it.

Have y'all noticed I err on the side of caution on this? Feh.