Isn't a ban just an indefinite suspension? What I mean is, isn't it just a matter of never unlocking her account

Correct.

Technically, it's a matter of never unlocking the account -- we don't delete the account, because then the name would be free for her or someone else to register with it again. Policy-wise, it's a matter of never unlocking and never going to, either.

So no further action is needed. She's banned, then. (I think.)

He just asked what had happened to the Phoenix (as far as I saw, I don't know if he went over to NAFDA). I didn't think it was a big deal. Had he joined in the discussion, I would've had a problem.

That seems like a letter of the law/spirit of the law thing. I mean, if someone slipped back in under a new name and was perfectly nice and we found out a year later would we ban them for life? I'd vote nah.

I disagree, Trudy. We should correct the wording for any future warnings, but Zoe's posting of insults and threats in People's Forums clearly indicates that she's not willing to abide by community standards. I don't think we need to communicate with her any further.

Hmmm... very good point. She can't log on and then figures out "guess they mean here too". What the heck.

I don't want to belittle Cindy's feelings IN ANY WAY here but I think the forever ban right now would be overkill since she was already told it was temporary. She acts like a dick in three months or she sneaks on now and THEN we can do it.

Have y'all noticed I err on the side of caution on this? Feh.

But Paul, by posting at our forum at PF, she's given up that right,

Oh yes, I was just being a nitpicker for formalities. Notice my extremely tongue-in-cheek tone above...

I'd add more about her comments about me, but honestly, I prefer not to think of such dark, ugly business at all. I prefer placing my energies into creating things of beauty.

So, Buffy. That's a good show, right?

When she made the threats, she violated etiquette again, so the ban is automatic.

Well there ya go!

Umm. No.

She violated the terms of her suspension. That's a ban. Instant, no take backs, no if onlys.

Period.

Edit: But I see this is crossposty.

Enormous hugs and hands in new places to Julie, Cindy, Paul and whomever else she slagged.

Has she assigned you Star Wars characters? Have you LOOKED at that woman's family tree? It's what convinced me that the captain of Zoe's tugboat pulled a Hazelton.

(I still think she's mentally off, btw, but now I think she's aggressive and not just clueless.)

Can we actually enforce a ban beyond the borders of buffistas.org? With no teeth, a ban is unpointy.

Tom, to me, the point of saying, "Yes, this suspension means WX and PF too" is that no one can turn around and say, "But I didn't KNOW I was suspended EVERYWHERE. It's noooottt faaaiiirrrr."

Or something equally annoying.