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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sophia Brooks - May 18, 2003 8:23:40 pm PDT #2115 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think the ssue is that we don't like upsetting people and no matter what we do, one or two people who are not the troll are really, reallt upset. I don;y like upsetting Trudy and connie, I don;t like upsetting Kat and Allyson (for example, over the troll issue) Problem is, whatever we do is going to upset someone, so it becomes harder and harder to make the desicions-- either way someone is upset.


§ ita § - May 18, 2003 8:23:56 pm PDT #2116 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The following procedure will be in place for taking action for unacceptable behaviour.

1. A user-complainant will try to resolve the complaint on-thread. If unsuccessful,
2. A user-complainant (does not need to be same person) will post in-thread that it's time to meet in Bureaucracy. In Bureaucracy, user-complainant will outline the complaint with linky citations, and request an Action.
3. At least 10 other users in 48 hours second the need for an Action. If 10 other users do not complain within the 48 hour period, no complaint can be made again about that particular incident, unless it is being used to illustrate, with others, a pattern of demon-like behaviour.
4. As soon as the request for action receives 10 seconds, Stompy sets forth Action.

edit: xpost


Sophia Brooks - May 18, 2003 8:24:29 pm PDT #2117 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

(also, we really need to move on a page that sets up the old decisions and what to do).


Burrell - May 18, 2003 8:29:13 pm PDT #2118 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Problem is, whatever we do is going to upset someone, so it becomes harder and harder to make the desicions-- either way someone is upset.

And yet, doing nothing but talk endlessly about what we *should* do? Bound to upset pretty much everyone involved.


Sophia Brooks - May 18, 2003 8:31:29 pm PDT #2119 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Burrell, I agree with that. This is why I favored voting (and I think still favor it, unless ita wants to take up and itacracy)-- I hought it would elp us decide how we would least upset the majority.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:33:02 pm PDT #2120 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Yeah. I had no idea about the 10 complainants in 48 hours rule.

Am I a moron staring at it in the FAQ, and can't see it?


§ ita § - May 18, 2003 8:36:18 pm PDT #2121 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Am I a moron staring at it in the FAQ, and can't see it?

Nah. A page with all the decisions is being worked on, but not yet complete. In the meanwhile, it requires Press surfing.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:39:13 pm PDT #2122 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Thanks, ita. I was feeling like an ass.

So when is it that I can propose a thread?


Steph L. - May 18, 2003 8:43:00 pm PDT #2123 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Tho I admit I don't think the troll-coddling problem is as large as Allyson and Kat percieve it to be.

We've only had 2 instances of banning, and each one involved days and days and days of heated discussions. People left this thread for good. People left this board for good. Friendships got seriously weakened, if not ended.

I'd call that a problem. If we had another one very soon, I think things would be ugly.

The "coddling" itself (if it exists) isn't the direct problem; it's the angst that arises out of the dithering about it.


Lyra Jane - May 18, 2003 8:43:08 pm PDT #2124 of 10005
Up with the sun

So when is it that I can propose a thread?

The 24th or 25th, I think, unless Betsy withdraws the grandpappy proposal.