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'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Lyra Jane - May 18, 2003 8:43:08 pm PDT #2124 of 10005
Up with the sun

So when is it that I can propose a thread?

The 24th or 25th, I think, unless Betsy withdraws the grandpappy proposal.


Jon B. - May 18, 2003 8:43:35 pm PDT #2125 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

A page with all the decisions is being worked on, but not yet complete.

I'm sure I volunteered to htmlify such a page but who is compiling the text?

So when is it that I can propose a thread?

It already got the secondses, right? So right after the current vote is done, or the end of the week.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:59:44 pm PDT #2126 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You know, I'm going along with the whole thing because I want the thread and this seems to be the only way to go about it, but I really, really can't stand this process. I haven't the patience for it.

We don't seem to be using this process for everything. F2F is almost completely planned by a couple of people, for example.

I can't imagine ever doing another charity project under these procedures, and the last couple were signed from "Buffistas."

Was there an agreement somewhere on what was eligible for voting, and what wasn't?


§ ita § - May 18, 2003 9:04:19 pm PDT #2127 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can't imagine ever doing another charity project under these procedures, and the last couple were signed from "Buffistas."

If you wanted to raise money for something ... it's not a board issue. it might be a Buffista thing, but not a board one. I don't think it would come even remotely near a voting procedure -- it would be yours to decide upon as you see fit.

Same with the F2F, as I see it.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 9:09:48 pm PDT #2128 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I think I don't see where the line is, ita. Banning someone is a board issue, but raising money for charity on behalf of Buffistas is not?

edited for clarification


Allyson - May 18, 2003 9:13:33 pm PDT #2129 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Uh, not trying to add complexity, just searching for clarity.


§ ita § - May 18, 2003 9:13:34 pm PDT #2130 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

By board, I mean straight up Buffistas.org. I'd always seen who posts here, and how, and which threads exist for posting in, yadda, yadda to be in the voting purview.

T-shirts, face to faces, charitable donations ... those don't actually involve right *here*. Not about this code, these threads ... does that make sense?

Of course, as I type, I'm realising that there's no reason anyone else would make a similar distinction.


Nutty - May 18, 2003 9:25:23 pm PDT #2131 of 10005
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think I make that distinction the same way you do, ita. And also, the process is a little wonky this week because of the "Oh yeah! We forgot about this whole other thing!" Other votes have gone off with many fewer hitches.

I'm the one compiling the text of decisions. I'm about done, and Jon, I can do the basics of htmlification if you like. Next 2 days?

One thing I've learned from reading B1 and 2 is that oftentimes, we talked past an issue for 500 posts, got exhausted, forgot what we were talking about, and then proposed the same thing all over again. So I'm thinking that institutional memory is a good thing!


Jon B. - May 18, 2003 10:14:53 pm PDT #2132 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm about done, and Jon, I can do the basics of htmlification if you like. Next 2 days?

I'm off to Lalaland on Saturday, so I can't promise it'll get done until I get back (beginning of June).


Burrell - May 18, 2003 10:17:44 pm PDT #2133 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Banning someone is a board issue, but raising money for charity on behalf of Buffistas is not?

Okay, I thought that warning, suspending, and banning, while a board issue, is NOT a voting issue. Ten seconds and that's it, the first warning goes out. That's right, right?