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Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sophia Brooks - May 18, 2003 8:24:29 pm PDT #2117 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

(also, we really need to move on a page that sets up the old decisions and what to do).


Burrell - May 18, 2003 8:29:13 pm PDT #2118 of 10005
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Problem is, whatever we do is going to upset someone, so it becomes harder and harder to make the desicions-- either way someone is upset.

And yet, doing nothing but talk endlessly about what we *should* do? Bound to upset pretty much everyone involved.


Sophia Brooks - May 18, 2003 8:31:29 pm PDT #2119 of 10005
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Burrell, I agree with that. This is why I favored voting (and I think still favor it, unless ita wants to take up and itacracy)-- I hought it would elp us decide how we would least upset the majority.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:33:02 pm PDT #2120 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Yeah. I had no idea about the 10 complainants in 48 hours rule.

Am I a moron staring at it in the FAQ, and can't see it?


§ ita § - May 18, 2003 8:36:18 pm PDT #2121 of 10005
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Am I a moron staring at it in the FAQ, and can't see it?

Nah. A page with all the decisions is being worked on, but not yet complete. In the meanwhile, it requires Press surfing.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:39:13 pm PDT #2122 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Thanks, ita. I was feeling like an ass.

So when is it that I can propose a thread?


Steph L. - May 18, 2003 8:43:00 pm PDT #2123 of 10005
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Tho I admit I don't think the troll-coddling problem is as large as Allyson and Kat percieve it to be.

We've only had 2 instances of banning, and each one involved days and days and days of heated discussions. People left this thread for good. People left this board for good. Friendships got seriously weakened, if not ended.

I'd call that a problem. If we had another one very soon, I think things would be ugly.

The "coddling" itself (if it exists) isn't the direct problem; it's the angst that arises out of the dithering about it.


Lyra Jane - May 18, 2003 8:43:08 pm PDT #2124 of 10005
Up with the sun

So when is it that I can propose a thread?

The 24th or 25th, I think, unless Betsy withdraws the grandpappy proposal.


Jon B. - May 18, 2003 8:43:35 pm PDT #2125 of 10005
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

A page with all the decisions is being worked on, but not yet complete.

I'm sure I volunteered to htmlify such a page but who is compiling the text?

So when is it that I can propose a thread?

It already got the secondses, right? So right after the current vote is done, or the end of the week.


Allyson - May 18, 2003 8:59:44 pm PDT #2126 of 10005
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

You know, I'm going along with the whole thing because I want the thread and this seems to be the only way to go about it, but I really, really can't stand this process. I haven't the patience for it.

We don't seem to be using this process for everything. F2F is almost completely planned by a couple of people, for example.

I can't imagine ever doing another charity project under these procedures, and the last couple were signed from "Buffistas."

Was there an agreement somewhere on what was eligible for voting, and what wasn't?