Every nightmare I have that doesn't revolve around academic failure or public nudity is about that thing. In fact, once I dreamt that it attacked me while I was late for a test and naked.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


kat perez - Oct 16, 2016 7:47:20 am PDT #9888 of 10289
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I'm in favor of the ban, so consider me bullshit consensed. I'm sorry that people have not felt safe here. Even though I'm not here much anymore, I love y'all like family. I hope PC gets his act together, but that sounds like a personal problem, not our problem.


JenP - Oct 16, 2016 7:48:05 am PDT #9889 of 10289

In favor of the ban, and thanks for sharing Jess, and I'm sorry. And to everyone else who left or has been affected by his behavior and actions, how awful.

Thanks to everyone who shed light here, too.


meara - Oct 16, 2016 7:48:52 am PDT #9890 of 10289

Bullshit consensus works for me.


Pix - Oct 16, 2016 7:50:42 am PDT #9891 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I just want to add that I'm appreciative of everyone's bravery in sharing their stories and for Dana for making the proposal initially. Although P-C has not crossed any boundaries with me (or in front of me) in a long time, he clearly has done so with other women, and I hate that we have lost people as a result. I suspect that, as Laura says, it is a deeply rooted unconscious issue rather than outright malice, but that doesn't matter. The end result is the same.

Although this community has shrunk over the years and many of us have become infrequent posters, it is one of my most beloved homes. I love how we have come together again and again to support each other, to share our triumphs and milestones, and to mourn.

I don't know if P-C will respond or if he has already made the decision to leave, and it doesn't really matter to me either way. I will say this directly to him: Sunil, I don't hate you or wish you ill. I am deeply saddened by the fact that your actions, conscious or not, have led to this point, and I hope you make the choice to seek therapy — both to process the pain of being called out in two of your communities, and to try to get to the bottom of what is leading to these behaviors. I wish you the best in your future. But this community needs a fresh start, and we cannot be a part of your process.

To everyone else, I care deeply about us as a community and truly hope we can transcend and come closer as a result of this situation.


DXMachina - Oct 16, 2016 7:51:15 am PDT #9892 of 10289
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I think I may have been the only one pushing for a vote, but that was mostly because this situation isn't something we ever planned on. At this point does anyone see Dana's motion being defeated if we did go so far as to vote on it? I don't. I haven't seen anyone speak against banning him. Facebook reports that he viewed Msbelle's post on this over there, which along with his tweet on the matter indicates that he probably knows what we are doing here. I withdraw my objection to consensus.


Pix - Oct 16, 2016 7:51:56 am PDT #9893 of 10289
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

BS consensus works for me.


amych - Oct 16, 2016 7:52:35 am PDT #9894 of 10289
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm for consensus


Amy - Oct 16, 2016 7:53:45 am PDT #9895 of 10289
Because books.

Consensus is okay with me.


lisah - Oct 16, 2016 7:54:03 am PDT #9896 of 10289
Punishingly Intricate

Consensus works for me.


billytea - Oct 16, 2016 7:58:50 am PDT #9897 of 10289
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I'm shocked and saddened to learn that P-C has caused this kind of trouble for so many people I support a consensus decision.