When we landed here you said you needed a few days to get space worthy again and is there somethin' wrong with your bunk?

Mal ,'Out Of Gas'


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le nubian - Oct 15, 2016 7:55:52 pm PDT #9855 of 10289
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Jessica,

Thank you for sharing. I am sorry. FWIW, and I know I am a prodigal daughter, but I would be in favor of banning.

I have had my own misgivings about him for years based on things he has posted here. Given what I read here and on twitter (and I came to know about this whole thing things morning after reading a RT from Cleolinda - OMGWTFPOLARBEAR), I think his behavior is WAY beyond the pale.


Scrappy - Oct 15, 2016 8:04:22 pm PDT #9856 of 10289
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Juliana, didn't you do theatre with him? Did he engage in troubling h behavior there?


juliana - Oct 15, 2016 8:34:46 pm PDT #9857 of 10289
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

We have theater friends in common, but I've avoided working with him. I've also failed to ask any of my friends about his behavior.


omnis_audis - Oct 15, 2016 8:45:37 pm PDT #9858 of 10289
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

I'm not sure what to say. I'm not a super active member. Schedule is too busy to try and keep up in Bitches or Natter. Firefly and Games are where I post the most lately.

I've met PC a few times at face to faces. He's come off a bit awkward to me, but I chalked it up to geeks being awkward. Heck, I'm awkward in social situations.

My prominent memories of PC on the board, was his family trying to arrange his marriage, and the various stories of the women he was set up on dates with. That was a long time ago. Like I said, I haven't kept up in Bitches in awhile.

I am friends with him on Facebook (like I am with many Buffistas). I'm not an avid reader of my timeline, but occasionally I will see a posting from him. Seems most are about his emerging writing career. I recall his shift from medical writing (I think that's right) to plays in thread. But haven't paid close enough attention to follow his various successes.

I tried reading the twitter links upthread, but I'm not much of a Twitter person, so they were more confusing than convincing. Maybe I didn't read far enough back. In a court of law, I'd say it was hearsay or circumstantial evidence at best.

Jess, your written account carries far more weight. First, let me say, I'm sorry you (and the others) had to go through that. And thank you for bravely posting your experience. I can't imagine it easy.

Juliana, your words also carry weight.

As a person who is really good at being a hermit in the urban jungle, I value my friends, and am loyal to them. There are some on the board whom I know well IRL, and count as some of my best friends. And the remainder of the board, I think of as my interstate/international tribe. I know, that if I need vibes, I have a bank that I can call on to help me through a tough time. How many stories have we heard of a Buffista driving to a train station or airport to help a friend or family member of a board member, basically a perfect stranger, and come to the rescue? How much couch surfing has been done via the board? Who needs air bnb? This board represents what is good about this world and humanity. As such, despite being more lurker than poster, I value the board and the members.

In discussing this with other board members, I have been made aware of several people who he has made uncomfortable with his behavior and actions, to the point that they have avoided threads he posts in or F2F events he's part of, or they have left the board entirely. I think we should ban him for this consistent and long-standing pattern of behavior.

I would hate to think tribe members have self exiled themselves because of the actions of another member. I would hate to think we missed out on putting a face to a screen name, because of the actions of another member.

As such, I agree with Matt, some action is called for.


quester - Oct 15, 2016 8:49:35 pm PDT #9859 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Jessica, I am so sorry you had to go through that and we didn't have your back.

I must be blind and deaf, because I missed the signs on the board that other people picked up on. I am so sorry that we lost any people over this.

Now, i'm getting pissed.

Jessica's explanation makes it clear in my mind, and that there is evidence of further behavior in the present has convinced me.

Still, sad.


Scrappy - Oct 15, 2016 8:50:01 pm PDT #9860 of 10289
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Beautifully, said. Omnis.


quester - Oct 15, 2016 8:52:36 pm PDT #9861 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Yeah, well said, Omnis.


quester - Oct 15, 2016 8:55:07 pm PDT #9862 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

cognitive dissonance. His is the most recent post in ita's Thread, in response to me.


Theodosia - Oct 16, 2016 12:58:07 am PDT #9863 of 10289
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm more than a little verklempt, because of course this is something I haven't see, aside from DX finding him like nails on a chalkboard.

I've got to process this before I can say what course I support. (This is probably the Bargaining Phase.)


Calli - Oct 16, 2016 2:54:13 am PDT #9864 of 10289
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I don't know if it needs to be a separate discussion, but if we do ban PC, I think we should update our rules language to reflect that extensive creepy, stalkery behavior can lead to immediate, no-three-strikes banning.