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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jon B. - Oct 15, 2016 3:43:50 pm PDT #9792 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Thanks for the links. I'm offline for the day but will review tomorrow.


dcp - Oct 15, 2016 3:48:58 pm PDT #9793 of 10289
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Why a consensus rather than a vote?

So far all I have found on banning is this:

Consistent demon-like behavior may earn a warning from the Stompy Feet. If you don't listen to the warning, you will be suspended for two months. And if you come back unreformed, you will be banned. Banning is rare and very much a last resort. >[link]


Sophia Brooks - Oct 15, 2016 3:50:36 pm PDT #9794 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Can I say I think we might be better off voting- not because I think it wouldn't pass, but because I think it sends a strong message that we as a group formally made a decision and took it as seriously as we do other decisions.

I am not going to make any further arguments regarding this, though, because I think it would be derailing.


msbelle - Oct 15, 2016 3:53:46 pm PDT #9795 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

is there a vote threshold? we are so inactive anymore I don't know we'd reach a #.


erikaj - Oct 15, 2016 3:54:21 pm PDT #9796 of 10289
Always Anti-fascist!

Oh, I didn't mean to say that, Dana...you may have heard/read more than I.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 15, 2016 4:00:46 pm PDT #9797 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It's 42. The voting threshold


msbelle - Oct 15, 2016 4:05:43 pm PDT #9798 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

well - we proposed, without any fighting preceding it on the board, that we BAN a member we all know - and it has generated 34 posts. 34!

I posted about this on the FB Buffista page and notified a couple ppl on twitter.

I know it hasn't been much time, but think about past issues and how much discussion they brought up.


Dana - Oct 15, 2016 4:14:24 pm PDT #9799 of 10289
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's a Saturday night, though. We need to at least give it through the weekend, I think.


Jessica - Oct 15, 2016 4:19:47 pm PDT #9800 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was harrassed by Sunil many years ago, and cut off all contact. I haven't thought of this incident in a very long time (this was over 10 years ago), but knowing now that I am not the only woman on this board who has been made to feel uncomfortable by Sunil's inappropriate behavior, here it is.

It began after I offered him my couch for the night when he was passing through NYC, and for weeks afterwards I was barraged by multiple daily emails from him which were inappropriately personal and very unwelcome. I told him to stop, and he not only continued to email me, but also started emailing my husband. During this time, he also posted a recap of the trip on the board (in Natter or Bitches, I think) which included bragging about his self-control in not looking down my shirt while he was a guest in my house. (I found out about this through backchannel, as I had already blocked him so I wouldn't have to encounter his creepy stalker bullshit by accident, or be tempted to engage.) I had already stopped posting in threads where he was a frequent poster, in order to avoid any more drama. At this point, I also blocked Sunil from ever emailing me again (I deleted all of his previous emails and set up a filter to send all future emails immediately to the trash) and significantly

(And Sunil, if you see this, I don't want an apology, so don't bother. All I want is for other women you've harrassed to know they're not alone, and for women you haven't gotten to yet to be warned.)


msbelle - Oct 15, 2016 4:21:01 pm PDT #9801 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I agree, just my observation on consensus vs. vote.

also putting a bug on my brain that we might need to revisit vote requirements in this day of multiple social media and no active show community.