Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Jessica - Oct 15, 2016 4:19:47 pm PDT #9800 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was harrassed by Sunil many years ago, and cut off all contact. I haven't thought of this incident in a very long time (this was over 10 years ago), but knowing now that I am not the only woman on this board who has been made to feel uncomfortable by Sunil's inappropriate behavior, here it is.

It began after I offered him my couch for the night when he was passing through NYC, and for weeks afterwards I was barraged by multiple daily emails from him which were inappropriately personal and very unwelcome. I told him to stop, and he not only continued to email me, but also started emailing my husband. During this time, he also posted a recap of the trip on the board (in Natter or Bitches, I think) which included bragging about his self-control in not looking down my shirt while he was a guest in my house. (I found out about this through backchannel, as I had already blocked him so I wouldn't have to encounter his creepy stalker bullshit by accident, or be tempted to engage.) I had already stopped posting in threads where he was a frequent poster, in order to avoid any more drama. At this point, I also blocked Sunil from ever emailing me again (I deleted all of his previous emails and set up a filter to send all future emails immediately to the trash) and significantly

(And Sunil, if you see this, I don't want an apology, so don't bother. All I want is for other women you've harrassed to know they're not alone, and for women you haven't gotten to yet to be warned.)


msbelle - Oct 15, 2016 4:21:01 pm PDT #9801 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I agree, just my observation on consensus vs. vote.

also putting a bug on my brain that we might need to revisit vote requirements in this day of multiple social media and no active show community.


Jesse - Oct 15, 2016 4:22:06 pm PDT #9802 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I read that policy as saying banning is actually a function of the Stompy Feet, so doing it by consensus/acclamation here seems fine to me.

Stompy Feet are Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych, msbelle_Rebecca, shrift, Dana, Laura - so I actually think it's important that Jon (and others, of course) have a chance to review.


Jesse - Oct 15, 2016 4:22:43 pm PDT #9803 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thanks for posting that, Jess.


Laura - Oct 15, 2016 4:25:24 pm PDT #9804 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

Thank you, Jess. I know that it isn't easy to come forward.


Amy - Oct 15, 2016 4:25:45 pm PDT #9805 of 10289
Because books.

I'm so sorry that happened, Jess. I had no idea.


erikaj - Oct 15, 2016 4:26:30 pm PDT #9806 of 10289
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes, thanks, it can't have been easy to talk about. Appreciate the concrete example though.


Laura - Oct 15, 2016 4:26:55 pm PDT #9807 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

I read that policy as saying banning is actually a function of the Stompy Feet, so doing it by consensus/acclamation here seems fine to me.

Either consensus or vote is fine with me.


quester - Oct 15, 2016 4:27:25 pm PDT #9808 of 10289
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I'm stunned. But, I know better than to doubt the people here.

If it must be done, then it must be done.

very sad.


Sophia Brooks - Oct 15, 2016 4:29:16 pm PDT #9809 of 10289
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Dcp and I cross posted- I agree after reading that that banning is not a voting issue.

Thank you Jessica for posting that. I too, had no idea.