This thread is now open to discuss the thread creation for a Marvel Cinematic Universe thread as distinctly not proposed by Scola here: Tom Scola "Bureaucracy 4: Like Job. No, really, just like Job" Apr 21, 2015 6:24:03 am PDT
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Aside from our obvious interest in the MCU, it seems clear that they are going to push further into television with limited series and ongoing series and linking them all together. So this really will be a broad spectrum of shows that will overlap and inform each other.
It seems logical to catch them all together, and with that many shows and movies there will be regular and lively traffic.
My only concern about a thread that combines the movies and the TV shows is that our rules for whitefonting movies and TV shows currently conflict.
TV shows (at least in Jossverse, where the MCU shows live now) are NAFDA, so there's no whitefonting of anything as soon as it airs on the East Coast.
Movies have the rule of whitefonting plot-related discussion for 2 weeks (although, do we strictly follow that any more?) and major HSQ until 2 weeks after the DVD release (which I *really* don't think we follow any more).
So if someone is caught up on SHIELD but hasn't seen AoU yet, and they're within the 2-week window, they can post about the show but won't be spoiled for the movie (in theory, because of the movie whitefonting rule). But it doesn't work in reverse. If someone has seen AoU but is NOT caught up on SHIELD, all the TV stuff will be in regular font, so if that person wants to post about AoU, they run the risk of getting spoiled for the TV stuff.
I'm not saying that's a reason to not have an MCU thread, but maybe we need to rethink what we whitefont, and for how long.
And the alternate viewpoint is the de facto approach to Boxed Set, which is basically "Nothing is whitefonted, so if you want to post about Walking Dead but haven't seen Arrow yet, you may get spoiled."
I agree with Hec and I agree with Tep.
Would Daredevil and X-Men be part of the MCU (for purposes of our thread)? Spiderman? Are there animated shows to be considered?
Would Daredevil and X-Men be part of the MCU (for purposes of our thread)? Spiderman? Are there animated shows to be considered?
Daredevil, yes. Spider-Man, only as produced by Marvel.
The MCU is specifically the universe produced and created by Marvel Studios, not any movie or TV show that features a Marvel character. No X-Men, no Fantastic Four, no five Spider-Man movies (but the SIXTH one, yes), etc.
Further complicating things is Netflix's practice of dumping all episodes of a season simultaneously. Discussion of Netflix series is hampered because we don't really have a whitefont policy for that kind of thing.
Are we saving the discussion of a Streaming (minus MCU) thread for later? I am definitely cool with that but I didn't want to miss my chance to support the idea.
Streaming should probably be a separate proposal.
The MCU is specifically the universe produced and created by Marvel Studios, not any movie or TV show that features a Marvel character. No X-Men, no Fantastic Four, no five Spider-Man movies (but the SIXTH one, yes), etc.
That seems super complicated for folks not deep into MCU. I already feel like I'll need a cheat sheet to separate any DC characters. If there are any with shows and stuff.