Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
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I'm for an animation thread.
I'm making the argument that reality is a medium and not a genre. Reality shows can be broken up into different genres and there are lots of reality programs that don't resemble each other in terms of genre.
We have: Game Show/Competitive Reality -Chopped, Survivor, American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance
There's Sitcom style-Duck Dynasty - where the family has said that the producers give them "ideas" and they go and do the thing; Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, Modern Dads
Procedural style Reality - Alaskan State Troopers and First 48 Hours and a few others I can't remember the names of.
Sci fi/fantasy - The Mermaid exposed or alien autopsy, the ghost hunting ones.
Soap Opera- Real Housewives of (Fill in Town Here)
Thematically So You think You Can Dance and House Hunters International don't have anything in common but they are both under Reality thread.
I don't really have a horse in this race, but with reality TV, the common thread is that they're all unscripted. (You know, more or less.) That doesn't qualify as medium for me.
What's wrong with having medium-related discussions? For me, the most interesting issues with the new season of Korra have been the replacement of Joaquin Dos Santos as the director, with the corresponding drop in animation quality, and the wholesale appropriation of Miyazaki imagery. That is a far different topic than what usually occurs in Boxed Set, and it also invites comparisons to other animated shows.
I would look for Korra in Boxed Set. I don't feel like there is very much traffic in Comedy so it doesn't make sense to me for Bob's Burgers, Venture Brothers, and Archer to go elsewhere.
Korra
was in Boxed Set, and I expected posts about the premiere there. And I think that the Comedy thread is MOSTLY those animated shows at this point, plus
Community.
Well, there is the matter that removing animated shows from Comedy will turn it into a dedicated
Community
thread by default, but I have no objection to an anime thread.
What's wrong with having medium-related discussions?
Concur with Tom's point here. There's no requirement to group by genre, just groupings that make sense. This is a completely defensible grouping with a range of interested parties who would prefer to discuss animation as animation.
I'm good with an animation thread, but admittedly for purely selfish reasons. I tend to be better at keeping up with my animated shows than my live-action ones, so an animation thread would allow me to discuss Korra without worrying about getting spoiled for Doctor Who or Arrow.
Above and beyond what's convenient for me, there is currently no obvious place to discuss things like anime (barring the rare movie that gets released in American theaters) or web-based series like RWBY. So the tread would serve a purpose beyond consolidating discussions from other threads.
Reality tv (well depending on the type of reality tv) can be heavily scripted. Or if not scripted heavily manipulated.
Wiillie from Duck Dynasty said in an interview that the producers come up with ideas for situations for the family to get into and then they just go and do their thing. Producers and editors change the order of when things happen, edit interviews to show people in a certain light and "cast" shows based on what they want.
Big Brother actually Photoshopped a contestant out a scene this season. It was a scene from their after hours broadcast that many people saw, but the show aired the footage AFTER the contestant was eliminated so they just digitally removed her.
I just read an article about Resataurant Stakeout and a place that was on because the owners was friends with someone on the production staff. His business was never in trouble and the "theft" incident shown had been scripted and the show went back "Six weeks later" but it was really 2 days later.
I do have a point and that's this - that within the "reality show" umbrella there are shows that closer to being scripted programming than "real life". There's also a huge range of shows that, even if they are "reality" could fall under different genres but get put together because of the reality format.
So why can't animated shows, which are also diverse, be put together because they share the format of animation.
Voting should have started last night but... I forgot. I'll get the ballot set up later today. In the meantime, feel free to continue the discussion.
To make things simple, I'll volunteer to count the votes.
ita -- Can you please point votes@... to my profile addy, and let me know when it's ready?