Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
We would still be able to talk about them there, right?
I don't talk about them anywhere, because to me they belong together and I don't got into Boxed Set.
There are several other dedicated TV box threads which are less related than this.
I literally don't talk about TV shows on B.org even though there are several shows I
could
talk about if they had a dedicated thread.
That is - to me - the most compelling argument.
Current thread structure mitigates against discussion.
Problems of thread creep? Man, that boat sailed.
There is no tight core.
Cable Drama, Procedurals, NonFiction TV.
How is this remotely different from Procedurals?
I deleted a lot to say: Hec, you absolutely do discuss Archer in comedy, so my confusion at the rest of your post is irrelevantly moot.
Suffice it to say, YES, there is a thematic similarity to Procedurals that animated shows don't share, because animated is medium, not content. Reality is a genre, not a medium. Cable is a grouping of service and airing patterns that I a) find hella clumsy but b) is to minimise spoilage within the bucket.
More than half of my shows right now are animated. And many of them, especially the kids’ shows, are genre-spanning and don’t fit easily into a single category.
For example, Futurama is gone now, but should it have gone in Comedy or Boxed Set?
My series: Adventure Time, Regular Show, Venture Bros, Legend of Korra, Dan Vs. (It's horrible, but Paget Brewster!), Gravity Falls. Shows I need to check out: Bob’s Burgers, Sanjay and Craig, Wander over Yonder (Craig McCracken and Lauren Faust!), and the upcoming Steven Universe. Also Beware the Batman, although I guess that should stay in Other Media.
Plus there’s always stuff on Adult Swim, and Fox is ramping up its Animation Domination block.
And as Hec pointed out, even if the shows don’t share the same genre, they share a lot of the same creators and voice talent.
They're not genre spanning because they're animated, they're genre spanning and they're animated. If Futurama had been live-action, would the "problem" have gone away?
Do you want the thread because you watch a lot of animated shows, or do you want it because the shows share thematic similarities? What does grouping by actor do for the discussion? Would it be better to discuss Firefly near YJ. too?
(it goes without saying I want one thread that covers most of what I watch too, but there's not enough content similarity there)
I know I'm big on bright lines, and this is pretty damned bright, but there also has to be more to it than "we can tell them apart".
I didn't discuss Archer in Comedy because I felt frustrated I couldn't discuss it with Korra or Young Justice. I discussed it there because it was the funniest show on TV.
I'm for an animation thread.
I'm making the argument that reality is a medium and not a genre. Reality shows can be broken up into different genres and there are lots of reality programs that don't resemble each other in terms of genre.
We have: Game Show/Competitive Reality -Chopped, Survivor, American Idol, So You Think You Can Dance
There's Sitcom style-Duck Dynasty - where the family has said that the producers give them "ideas" and they go and do the thing; Here Comes Honey Boo Boo, Modern Dads
Procedural style Reality - Alaskan State Troopers and First 48 Hours and a few others I can't remember the names of.
Sci fi/fantasy - The Mermaid exposed or alien autopsy, the ghost hunting ones.
Soap Opera- Real Housewives of (Fill in Town Here)
Thematically So You think You Can Dance and House Hunters International don't have anything in common but they are both under Reality thread.
I don't really have a horse in this race, but with reality TV, the common thread is that they're all unscripted. (You know, more or less.) That doesn't qualify as medium for me.
What's wrong with having medium-related discussions? For me, the most interesting issues with the new season of Korra have been the replacement of Joaquin Dos Santos as the director, with the corresponding drop in animation quality, and the wholesale appropriation of Miyazaki imagery. That is a far different topic than what usually occurs in Boxed Set, and it also invites comparisons to other animated shows.
I would look for Korra in Boxed Set. I don't feel like there is very much traffic in Comedy so it doesn't make sense to me for Bob's Burgers, Venture Brothers, and Archer to go elsewhere.
Korra
was in Boxed Set, and I expected posts about the premiere there. And I think that the Comedy thread is MOSTLY those animated shows at this point, plus
Community.
Well, there is the matter that removing animated shows from Comedy will turn it into a dedicated
Community
thread by default, but I have no objection to an anime thread.