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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Glamcookie - Apr 09, 2009 7:46:05 am PDT #9073 of 10289
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

No harm in asking, but it indicates that it is difficult to navigate the site (most often these are experienced users, not newbies). I'll have to search out specific examples (if we really need them), but I've seen it in Natter and Bureaucracy more than once. I know it's incorrect on occasion because it's led to the millionth discussion of why Boxed Set has problems. Not that I know how to solve them, or even that they can be solved better than they are currently, just that it does arise as an issue often.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2009 7:50:59 am PDT #9074 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If people are asking where discussion is because they can't work out to click on Film and TV Discussion it's a different problem than if it seemed a harmless enough question to ask without bothering to click, or if they just didn't know if something qualified, which is why I ask.

Also, it doesn't have to be the wrong answer for it to start this discussion, which is another reason I ask--I answer it a lot, and haven't noticed anyone telling me I steered them wrong.


Glamcookie - Apr 09, 2009 7:53:50 am PDT #9075 of 10289
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

If people are asking where discussion is because they can't work out to click on Film and TV Discussion it's a different problem than if it seemed a harmless enough question to ask without bothering ot click, or if they just didn't know if something qualified, which is why I ask.

No, I don't think it's a matter of where Film and TV threads are. It seems to happen when a new show airs. People aren't sure which thread it belongs in (Boxed Set vs. Cable vs. ???). I haven't seen it with existing shows.


Ginger - Apr 09, 2009 7:55:39 am PDT #9076 of 10289
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Have we thought about adding a site map?


Jessica - Apr 09, 2009 7:58:42 am PDT #9077 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It seems to happen when a new show airs.

Isn't this more a problem of TV marketing than a problem with the site? I mean, if we can't tell what genre a show is before it airs (hello Kings, looking right at you), then it's not going to be clear where it goes, but changing the thread structure around isn't really going to fix that.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2009 7:59:28 am PDT #9078 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Have we thought about adding a site map?

A site map would end up having to be dynamically generated and look much like information you can gain through an extra click. If you don't know if a show goes in Procedurals vs. Cable Drama, which seems to be what GC suggests, then a site map, even with slug and thread description showing, isn't going to be much help.

I just don't see the problem with asking. Shir asked me the other day where FIrefly/Serenity discussion went, and it was no skin off my nose to ferret her out the link--but it seemed obvious to me she thought asking was simpler for her than checking the TV folder, and would a site map (being about as far away as the TV folder) have helped there?


Steph L. - Apr 09, 2009 8:16:19 am PDT #9079 of 10289
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

During a watch and post it would be easy enough to highlight-as-you-go

Unless you're using an iPhone.

You latte-drinking, socialism-loving, puppy-eating iPhone users deserve a little strife.

t /jealous non-iPhone-haver


NoiseDesign - Apr 09, 2009 8:19:00 am PDT #9080 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Yum. Puppies.


JenP - Apr 09, 2009 8:21:52 am PDT #9081 of 10289

In terms of the threads named in this discussion other than Boxed Set, I don't see the need to close them just because they're low traffic.

In terms of Boxed Set, I don't see why Chuck should be in there, but I can't speak to Kings or Cupid, since I don't watch those. Those do seem to be two types of shows where it's not clear to everyone that they belong in Boxed Set, though.

I can see where AU shouldn't automatically mean Boxed Set - I mean if physics and biology work in Kings the way they do in our, uh, U, and the fact that it's an AU isn't part of the meat of the show (as in, addressed directly within the story) then maybe it's just a drama. I mean, BSG was a drama, but they had FTL drives and cylons. But then I think of Jericho, and I confuse my own argument. Did we discuss that in Boxed Set? I think I'm having an AUstential crisis.


Vortex - Apr 09, 2009 8:24:23 am PDT #9082 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And sure, if I had thought about it logically, Kings (for example) is fantasy and that's the second F in SFF, but it just doesn't feel like the same vibe as (what I thought were)the other shows discussed in there.

so, we're discussing SciFi v. SyFy (Mansquito!) ;)