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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Vortex - Apr 09, 2009 8:24:23 am PDT #9082 of 10289
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

And sure, if I had thought about it logically, Kings (for example) is fantasy and that's the second F in SFF, but it just doesn't feel like the same vibe as (what I thought were)the other shows discussed in there.

so, we're discussing SciFi v. SyFy (Mansquito!) ;)


tiggy - Apr 09, 2009 8:24:30 am PDT #9083 of 10289
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

what ita said about an all whitefont discussion thread. especially if we're talking "one tv show thread to rule them all" it would be unweildy and much like Natter for me if we put every single tv show in one thread.


tiggy - Apr 09, 2009 8:27:20 am PDT #9084 of 10289
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

In terms of Boxed Set, I don't see why Chuck should be in there

Chuck works for me in Boxed Set simply because he's walking around with a computer in his brain. i could also see the argument that it would work just as well in Procedurals.


JenP - Apr 09, 2009 8:28:10 am PDT #9085 of 10289

I've decided my AU argument is dumb and slippery slope. AU=fantasy? Is that reasonable?


JenP - Apr 09, 2009 8:29:08 am PDT #9086 of 10289

Oh, yeah, I guess the computer in the brain is sort of sci-fi. (Or is it??)


P.M. Marc - Apr 09, 2009 8:45:53 am PDT #9087 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, I'm no longer using the thread, but based on the premise and the whole computer-in-brain thing, BS is where I'd expect to find discussion of Chuck.


megan walker - Apr 09, 2009 9:07:00 am PDT #9088 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

In bureau Megan joked:
Frankly, I'd rather just have a white-font TV thread and be done with it.

Or didn't joke. I don't know.

I also joked that I wanted to rethink the bucket threads, which was seconded and thirded, and you see where that has gotten us. I think the lesson here is that I should not be joking in Bureaucracy. I guess it’s sort of the security checkpoint of our Buffista airport.

I don't want to subscribe to the thread to discuss one show out of however many others that are being discussed.

This was definitely where I was coming from with my original comment. I’m not trying to take TV out of Natter, I’m trying to keep some of it in there. I find that the different bucket threads has made the TV conversation more and more disjointed to me. My counts were not trying to justify closing as much as to generate conversation about what those numbers meant. For me, 3 posts here, 3 posts there, adds to the disjointed feeling. Clearly they are working for some people. But I wonder, has the comedy thread generated discussion that wouldn’t have happened in Natter, has premium cable become a community, etc.

Isn't this more a problem of TV marketing than a problem with the site? I mean, if we can't tell what genre a show is before it airs (hello Kings, looking right at you), then it's not going to be clear where it goes, but changing the thread structure around isn't really going to fix that.

Which is why I suggested that it might be better to see how something is initially discussed in Natter, to see if it fits in with Boxed Set, because (however wrong-headed) I think about in the same way Jesse does.

I just went into Boxed Set to see about Kings, and it really hadn't occurred to me that there would be Chuck in there, too! I think part of my problem is I feel like the shows in BS are "fannish" or something, which I realize is not necessarily any part of the thread charter.

And sure, if I had thought about it logically, Kings (for example) is fantasy and that's the second F in SFF, but it just doesn't feel like the same vibe as (what I thought were)the other shows discussed in there.


§ ita § - Apr 09, 2009 9:08:35 am PDT #9089 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

to see if it fits in with Boxed Set

I still don't understand how you define "fits in with Boxed Set." It doesn't take discussing Cupid to decide if it's sff as much as it takes discussing the genre of Cupid. I don't get what Natter discussion of the episodes can reveal.


megan walker - Apr 09, 2009 9:13:33 am PDT #9090 of 10289
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

it takes discussing the genre of Cupid

Okay, but where would you propose that discussion take place? As Jess notes, it's not always obvious before it airs.


Jessica - Apr 09, 2009 9:14:06 am PDT #9091 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Which is why I suggested that it might be better to see how something is initially discussed in Natter, to see if it fits in with Boxed Set

Regarding Kings, this is more or less what happened. I x-posted about the show before it aired in both threads to test the waters - the conversation in Natter died, but flourished in BS.