'Dirty Girls'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
In the original discussion about the turnout numbers and etc., Sophia put together a summary of the arguments, and I think they are all pretty much still the same
I think I am having stress flashbacks!!!!
I think that our active and semi active user base has stayed about the same-- I would guess right around a hundred. Active, in my mind would be either posts votes or donates.
I've always felt that No Preference was more about being engaged in the process and meeting quorum than an "I don't care" statement. Perhaps "present" or "abstain" is more descriptive of how I think of it. A way to indicate that you are here and paying attention and taking part even if neither side fully persuades you.
That said, I'd rather lose the No Preference option for primary issues (leaving it as an option for secondary questions) than start complicating the process with percentages, etc.
Ultimately, I think it's highly unlikely that simply losing No Preference (again, on primary ballot questions only) would affect the results of any given vote.
Last thoughts, not different than the first thoughts, although I do have a better understanding of the objections to NP.
I don't feel the numbers have changed enough to justify changing the quorum threshold. It makes sense to me that the proposer can choose whether to include NP, but if it bugs people that much I'll deal with losing the option.
Oh, voting should be today, right? I'm going to be out for most of the day, so I think this is what I want for the ballot:
Should we eliminate "No Preference" as an option on future ballots? Yes/No/No Preference
In a multi-part ballot, should the quorum number be made by the responses to the "primary" question, or must the quorum of 42 be met on all parts of the ballot? (For example, if the primary question is "Buffistas: talky meat? Y/N" with a sub-question of "If yes, talky meat, or the talkiest meat?" the quorum would only have to be met on the first question.) Primary Only/All Parts/No Preference.
Voting starts tomorrow afternoon (four days of discussion started the afternoon of 5/15). But thanks.
Also, I don't think your second question is something we should vote on. I think that "primary only" should be part and parcel of the first question. Otherwise, if for some reason "All Parts" passed, we'd need a way to deal with those situations where a thread is created, but no spoiler policy is resolved.
Yeah, you're right. We'd be screwed if that happened! I take it all back.
And I'd say take the No Preference option off. But that's my usual inclination.
But it's your ballot, so...
And I'd say take the No Preference option off.
Yeah, but leaving it on is such beautiful irony.
Do you need someone to count votes?
Always!