Mal: How come you didn't turn on me, Jayne? Jayne: Money wasn't good enough. Mal: What happens when it is? Jayne: Well... that'll be an interesting day.

'Serenity'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


aurelia - May 17, 2008 5:12:53 pm PDT #8849 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I've always felt that No Preference was more about being engaged in the process and meeting quorum than an "I don't care" statement. Perhaps "present" or "abstain" is more descriptive of how I think of it. A way to indicate that you are here and paying attention and taking part even if neither side fully persuades you.

That said, I'd rather lose the No Preference option for primary issues (leaving it as an option for secondary questions) than start complicating the process with percentages, etc.

Ultimately, I think it's highly unlikely that simply losing No Preference (again, on primary ballot questions only) would affect the results of any given vote.


Laura - May 18, 2008 5:14:31 am PDT #8850 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.

Last thoughts, not different than the first thoughts, although I do have a better understanding of the objections to NP.

I don't feel the numbers have changed enough to justify changing the quorum threshold. It makes sense to me that the proposer can choose whether to include NP, but if it bugs people that much I'll deal with losing the option.


Jesse - May 18, 2008 5:25:00 am PDT #8851 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, voting should be today, right? I'm going to be out for most of the day, so I think this is what I want for the ballot:

Should we eliminate "No Preference" as an option on future ballots? Yes/No/No Preference

In a multi-part ballot, should the quorum number be made by the responses to the "primary" question, or must the quorum of 42 be met on all parts of the ballot? (For example, if the primary question is "Buffistas: talky meat? Y/N" with a sub-question of "If yes, talky meat, or the talkiest meat?" the quorum would only have to be met on the first question.) Primary Only/All Parts/No Preference.


Jon B. - May 18, 2008 5:32:47 am PDT #8852 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Voting starts tomorrow afternoon (four days of discussion started the afternoon of 5/15). But thanks.

Also, I don't think your second question is something we should vote on. I think that "primary only" should be part and parcel of the first question. Otherwise, if for some reason "All Parts" passed, we'd need a way to deal with those situations where a thread is created, but no spoiler policy is resolved.


Jesse - May 18, 2008 5:39:16 am PDT #8853 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, you're right. We'd be screwed if that happened! I take it all back.


Kat - May 18, 2008 5:46:43 am PDT #8854 of 10289
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And I'd say take the No Preference option off. But that's my usual inclination.

But it's your ballot, so...


Steph L. - May 18, 2008 7:17:48 am PDT #8855 of 10289
I look more rad than Lutheranism

And I'd say take the No Preference option off.

Yeah, but leaving it on is such beautiful irony.


Lee - May 18, 2008 7:29:50 am PDT #8856 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Do you need someone to count votes?


Jon B. - May 18, 2008 7:42:51 am PDT #8857 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Always!


Nilly - May 18, 2008 7:51:21 am PDT #8858 of 10289
Swouncing

I was just skimming to the end in order to make sure we have someone to count votes!

So if Perkins can't do it, I'm more than willing to.

t back to catching up