May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 7:34:40 pm PDT #816 of 10289
Nobody

Apparently I'm both Jesse and Deena.

amyth! Get msbelle a pink pony, too.


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 8:32:27 pm PDT #817 of 10289
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

The work I have to do! Ack! You think these pink ponies are easy to come by?

Proposal sounds good to me so far.


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 8:38:33 pm PDT #818 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I gotta say, I shoulda stepped up sooner. Who knew there was positive attention? After this though, I step back into the shadows.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 8:49:23 pm PDT #819 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

I want a pink pony (mentioning in case there are any extras at the Pink Pony Palace).


Jessica - Apr 15, 2003 9:21:48 pm PDT #820 of 10289
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

For Cindy

For msbelle

For Deena

For ALL Buffistas


Burrell - Apr 15, 2003 9:27:33 pm PDT #821 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

There wouldn't, I believe it is supposed, be 10 complaints if the offender makes nice nice. Or, some of the complaints will likely be withdrawn if the offender waits to make nice until after it goes to bureacracy. Still, making nice would probably make it go away, until the next time, if there is a next time.

Still not clear to me. Let's say that A complains about B. B happens to be at work at the time. Now while B is at work, all 10 seconds needed chime in. B hasn't responded yet, because B has no idea that there is ANYTHING to respond to. As soon as B discovers she/he is the subject of heated discussion, she/he comes in, explains his/her side of things, promises behavior modification, etc. But meanwhile, 10 complaints were logged. Is the warning automatic? Has debate officially ended when 10 complaints are reached?


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 9:47:11 pm PDT #822 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Burrell - step one is that A complains in the thread where the offensive post occurs.

For example: A says, "Hey B, that offends me. Please watch your tone and/or hateful language."

B can either 1) Doblerize and then all is well, OR B can 2) continue to antagonize.

If 2, then it is A's resposibility to say in that same thread, "B, I am taking my complaint to Bureau and asking that you be given a warning."

Is that clear? I don't think it would be possible for B to get to the "up for a warning" place without knowing it. If B was away when A posted the in-thread complaint, there would be no reason for A to move to Bureau. Lack of response without additional offensive behaviour I don't think would warrant it.


Burrell - Apr 15, 2003 10:02:40 pm PDT #823 of 10289
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Burrell - step one is that A complains in the thread where the offensive post occurs.

[...stuff cut...]

If 2, then it is A's resposibility to say in that same thread, "B, I am taking my complaint to Bureau and asking that you be given a warning."

You are assuming that the whole conversation happens in real time. I am assuming that things may not work out that way. What if A is reading last night's discussion, sees B put his/her foot in his/her mouth for the upteenth time, gets pissed off, and goes to post in Bureaucracy (remember that the person who posts in Bureaucracy need not be the same person who registers a complaint in thread). Or say the fight starts the night before, A gets up the next day still pissed and boots it to Natter--while B is at work. Not only are such scenarios possible, I see them as likely.


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 10:07:10 pm PDT #824 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

and goes to post in Bureaucracy

you mean after posting in the thread where foot in mouth occured, right?

I am actually still not seeing the problem. can someone else see what I am missing?


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2003 10:11:55 pm PDT #825 of 10289
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bureaucracy's only supposed to happen after in-thread failed. In thread can't fail if B's not around, really.