I like the ruffles.

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 1:28:26 pm PDT #796 of 10289
Nobody

I actually think Rob is an excellent example of how not apologizing doesn't always mean bad things. There was no harm done, Rob chilled and, as he said above, he won't be doing it again because he understands the community reaction and he respects that. It's all good.

Me too, and Rob, thanks for refreshing us on what happened. I hope we didn't make you uncomfortable. I felt okay using your example, because I thought your decision to chill rather than offer a false apology was a good one (and satisfactory to me - i.e., I wouldn't have seconded a demand to warn you).

I really don't want to see whether or not someone apologizes becoming the be all end all. But maybe that's just me.

No. It's not just you at all. It's why I broached the subject. I completely agree.

And to reiterate, I don't need this legislated or put in the ballot, I just wanted a gut check on how people view things, in case this ever happens. I do think the long ago and far away decision to not create lengthy rules which can become fodder for rules-lawyers was a very wise one.

Cindy, my fault for bringing it up as an example in the first place.

Deena, no -- there's no fault. It's good, because it's been weighing on my mind since yesterday's bureaucracy conversation, but I wasn't sure how to ask it.


amyth - Apr 15, 2003 2:47:06 pm PDT #797 of 10289
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

Clearly I want my cake and I want to eat it too, atop a pony, a pink one, and I'll call her Apple Blossom, and we'll have marvelous adventures together.

Now you want the pony to be pink???

You know, when I signed on to be your slave, I imagined some laundry, some toadying, a massage or two, maybe a collar and an "I'm Cindy's Slave--AIFG!" t-shirt. I never imagined that tracking down mythical pastel-colored animals would be part of the deal.

Not that I'm not working on it. Here--have a mimosa!


Cindy - Apr 15, 2003 2:52:13 pm PDT #798 of 10289
Nobody

Is it a pink mimosa?


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 2:59:48 pm PDT #799 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

kids.

I would like to say how happy I am that everyone is in agreement with the putting the proposal forward. I wish we could close down the discussing time and move right to voting. Beacuse I honestly expected a lot more input into the process. It has been an interesting experience and insight into people.

In addition to calling people on behaviour I don't like, immediatly. I will also be proposing ballot measures immediatly when I think they will address an issue on the board.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 3:03:42 pm PDT #800 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

could someone repost the ballot as it stands? Is the Warning time limit in it now? If it is, has it been decided how long it should be? Have the questions been answered to everyone's satisfaction? Is there anything missing? I feel confused and confused about why I'm confused. I think it's because I keep seeing a pink pony.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2003 3:08:24 pm PDT #801 of 10289
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Has the issue been addressed about how/when/whether a complaint can be registered again if it doesn't receive it's 10 seconds in 24 hours?

I mean, if I decide that msbelle is wearing entirely too much pink and I want her warned about that, and I only get 9 seconds in 24 hours is there a rule about how long I have to wait before I lobby vigorously against her offensive pinkery and try to get that 10th second?


msbelle - Apr 15, 2003 3:11:37 pm PDT #802 of 10289
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

David - the answer in taht case is never, Just FYI.

Deena, I'll get it.


askye - Apr 15, 2003 3:13:06 pm PDT #803 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

The way Deena had it worded if a compliant doesn't 10 seconds in 24 hrs that offense can't be brought up for warning again, however it can be refered to as an example of a pattern of behaviour.


Deena - Apr 15, 2003 3:14:46 pm PDT #804 of 10289
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

yeah, except I think everyone's behind 48 hours now. Which is still cool with me.


askye - Apr 15, 2003 3:16:15 pm PDT #805 of 10289
Thrive to spite them

I meant 48 hrs sorry.