That also depends on the day -- Mad Men pretty clearly "belongs" in Cable Drama, but on at least one day, there was some pretty involved discussion of it in Natter.

I think that a show can be discussed in more than one thread.

I think that a show can be discussed in more than one thread.

Also, hadn't we previously stated that anyone can discuss anything they want, including current TV shows, in Natter? Because, you know, it's Natter?

I'll third Vortex and Ailleann. As if that were necessary.

Oh, of course -- I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed wherever, just that "where the conversation pops up" won't necessarily be only one place. Which is fine, but not a defining principle.

This is kind of what I'm afraid of. I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I have a problem with both volume and, for lack of a better word "quality" of discussion. That is, the sort of thoughtful and intelligent discussion that I rarely see outside of b.org. I haven't noticed that sort of discussion for the Procedurals; I have seen it (to some degree) for some comedies like The Office. I'm hesitant vote for a Procedurals thread for that reason.

I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I'm more optimistic. Given that Bones and House were two of the largest checked shows in the poll, I think having a designated place to discuss them will actually encourage discussion.

I have nothing to say about Monk, really. I think since we already have a place to discuss it, we've already filtered possible future discussion, unless we choose to close or change the purposes of other threads. Therefore it's kind of a moot point: we voted in Cable Drama, Monk is on cable and is arguably a drama, thus it has a place. However, I'm more of the msbelle/Vortex view: conversation will develop where it develops, given the threads we have in place/are putting in place. I'm not too concerned about Monk showing up in Procedurals--if it does, hey, we want it to be more of a procedural type thing, cool. If not, it still has a place in Cable.

::shrug:: I think the limits of thread building are here, you know? We can build it, they may or may not come. If they don't, we close the thread. If they do, then its purpose is served. We can say, "oh, only these four shows are allowed here," but then we spend three hundred posts in B'cry arguing about whether Ugly Betty is a comedy or a drama. I think there are better uses of our time, frankly. So we make the threads, if we vote 'em in, and then see how they work. That's all I feel compelled to do in this procedure.

Bones and House, plus anything else in the wide world of Procedurals. Sounds like enough to go on.

Numb3rs would fall into this as well, right?

yup.

I'd be down with folding some of the Premium Cable talk into Procedurals. The Wire, for instance, may be a lot of other things, but it's also a procedural.

This is because I'm a little concerned about the relative lack of discussion in Premium with the deaths of The Sopranos, Deadwood, and John From Cincinnati. There's still talk about Dexter and Flight of the Conchords and S5 of The Wire coming up, but it seems to me that the conversation might be better served by splitting it into threads linked with thematic content over price of subscription. I say this as someone who cares about that thread.