None of it means a damn thing.

Mal ,'Objects In Space'


Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Fred Pete - Aug 22, 2007 10:46:23 am PDT #7704 of 10289
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'll third Vortex and Ailleann. As if that were necessary.


Jesse - Aug 22, 2007 10:59:11 am PDT #7705 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh, of course -- I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed wherever, just that "where the conversation pops up" won't necessarily be only one place. Which is fine, but not a defining principle.


Jon B. - Aug 22, 2007 11:04:48 am PDT #7706 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This is kind of what I'm afraid of. I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I have a problem with both volume and, for lack of a better word "quality" of discussion. That is, the sort of thoughtful and intelligent discussion that I rarely see outside of b.org. I haven't noticed that sort of discussion for the Procedurals; I have seen it (to some degree) for some comedies like The Office. I'm hesitant vote for a Procedurals thread for that reason.


esse - Aug 22, 2007 11:23:03 am PDT #7707 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I'm more optimistic. Given that Bones and House were two of the largest checked shows in the poll, I think having a designated place to discuss them will actually encourage discussion.

I have nothing to say about Monk, really. I think since we already have a place to discuss it, we've already filtered possible future discussion, unless we choose to close or change the purposes of other threads. Therefore it's kind of a moot point: we voted in Cable Drama, Monk is on cable and is arguably a drama, thus it has a place. However, I'm more of the msbelle/Vortex view: conversation will develop where it develops, given the threads we have in place/are putting in place. I'm not too concerned about Monk showing up in Procedurals--if it does, hey, we want it to be more of a procedural type thing, cool. If not, it still has a place in Cable.

::shrug:: I think the limits of thread building are here, you know? We can build it, they may or may not come. If they don't, we close the thread. If they do, then its purpose is served. We can say, "oh, only these four shows are allowed here," but then we spend three hundred posts in B'cry arguing about whether Ugly Betty is a comedy or a drama. I think there are better uses of our time, frankly. So we make the threads, if we vote 'em in, and then see how they work. That's all I feel compelled to do in this procedure.


Connie Neil - Aug 22, 2007 12:03:05 pm PDT #7708 of 10289
brillig

Bones and House, plus anything else in the wide world of Procedurals. Sounds like enough to go on.


NoiseDesign - Aug 22, 2007 12:05:02 pm PDT #7709 of 10289
Our wings are not tired

Numb3rs would fall into this as well, right?


esse - Aug 22, 2007 12:14:52 pm PDT #7710 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

yup.


Hayden - Aug 22, 2007 12:15:35 pm PDT #7711 of 10289
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'd be down with folding some of the Premium Cable talk into Procedurals. The Wire, for instance, may be a lot of other things, but it's also a procedural.

This is because I'm a little concerned about the relative lack of discussion in Premium with the deaths of The Sopranos, Deadwood, and John From Cincinnati. There's still talk about Dexter and Flight of the Conchords and S5 of The Wire coming up, but it seems to me that the conversation might be better served by splitting it into threads linked with thematic content over price of subscription. I say this as someone who cares about that thread.


esse - Aug 22, 2007 12:24:27 pm PDT #7712 of 10289
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I think it's kind of the same thing as Monk, really. Unless some one else moves to dissolve the Premium thread so that The Wire could be moved to Procedurals, or someone makes a proposal to move that show only, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not inclined to add it on to this proposal, really. Perhaps you should bring it up in B'cry, if the thread passes?


aurelia - Aug 22, 2007 1:19:17 pm PDT #7713 of 10289
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I'll be following discussion of Bones. And Medium (which I think fits into the MoW descriptor), when it returns to the schedule.