That also depends on the day -- Mad Men pretty clearly "belongs" in Cable Drama, but on at least one day, there was some pretty involved discussion of it in Natter.

I guess my question is really, what will people be discussing in a Procedurals thread. I mean, I watch a TON of Law & Order, but almost never have anything to say about it beyond random guest stars who have since become someone.

I'll definitely be in there to talk about Bones and House, if nothing else. A lot of what I'm interested in for the new season is more Boxed Set oriented. I'm sure some of the JM fans will show up in Procedurals to talk Without a Trace.

Rather than shunting Monk discussion into one place, why not see where the conversation pops up?

This is kinda how I feel about all the tv talk. If people would just start talking about the shows they want to discuss(wherever they frequent), I think people will either join in and therefore a need for a thread will be shown, OR people will not join in and a lack of interest will be obvious.

It has always seemed simple to me for what is such a talked and re-talked topic.

I'll definitely be in there to talk about Bones and House, if nothing else.

This is kind of what I'm afraid of. I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

That also depends on the day -- Mad Men pretty clearly "belongs" in Cable Drama, but on at least one day, there was some pretty involved discussion of it in Natter.

I think that a show can be discussed in more than one thread.

I think that a show can be discussed in more than one thread.

Also, hadn't we previously stated that anyone can discuss anything they want, including current TV shows, in Natter? Because, you know, it's Natter?

I'll third Vortex and Ailleann. As if that were necessary.

Oh, of course -- I'm not saying it shouldn't be discussed wherever, just that "where the conversation pops up" won't necessarily be only one place. Which is fine, but not a defining principle.

This is kind of what I'm afraid of. I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I have a problem with both volume and, for lack of a better word "quality" of discussion. That is, the sort of thoughtful and intelligent discussion that I rarely see outside of b.org. I haven't noticed that sort of discussion for the Procedurals; I have seen it (to some degree) for some comedies like The Office. I'm hesitant vote for a Procedurals thread for that reason.

I don't think those two shows together generate enough conversation for a whole thread, and you still get the spoiler problem of the bucket thread.

I'm more optimistic. Given that Bones and House were two of the largest checked shows in the poll, I think having a designated place to discuss them will actually encourage discussion.

I have nothing to say about Monk, really. I think since we already have a place to discuss it, we've already filtered possible future discussion, unless we choose to close or change the purposes of other threads. Therefore it's kind of a moot point: we voted in Cable Drama, Monk is on cable and is arguably a drama, thus it has a place. However, I'm more of the msbelle/Vortex view: conversation will develop where it develops, given the threads we have in place/are putting in place. I'm not too concerned about Monk showing up in Procedurals--if it does, hey, we want it to be more of a procedural type thing, cool. If not, it still has a place in Cable.

::shrug:: I think the limits of thread building are here, you know? We can build it, they may or may not come. If they don't, we close the thread. If they do, then its purpose is served. We can say, "oh, only these four shows are allowed here," but then we spend three hundred posts in B'cry arguing about whether Ugly Betty is a comedy or a drama. I think there are better uses of our time, frankly. So we make the threads, if we vote 'em in, and then see how they work. That's all I feel compelled to do in this procedure.