::loves Sean::
Wash ,'Serenity'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
I'll go wherever the SPN discussion goes, and also stay in Boxed Set because I'm a ginormous fannish crackwhore. I'm not upset by any of this except for the part where other people are upset, if that makes sense.
I have sensed some exasperation for a while now whenever we get all Supernatural Likes Carrots.
Shrift speaks for me. I love SPN, I love talking SPN with Buffistas, because it's a different dynamic than on LJ. And if we have our own thread I will continue to talk SPN with Buffistas, and that makes me happy. I will continue to read Boxed Set because I'm a fannish crackhore I'm a media fan.
I haven't taken offense at any of the conversation, and it's been interesting to see the way Nutty tied Boxed Set to media fandom, because while she's right, it's not a connection I would have made. Boxed Set sort of is the home for the folks who participate in media fandom in that kind of classic way--the picspam/vid/fanfic multi-fandom kind of way, that is not specifically a Buffista thing. I mean, it's a thing that some Buffistas do, but only a subset of us, and we engage in fandom outside of B.org in a way that other Buffistas don't.
Anyway, anything the community decides is good with me. I'm sure Boxed Set will survive, esp. with stuff like The Sarah Connor Chronicles coming up (SCC?) this fall.
Sean is wise. And made my allergies act up just a little, because this:
Okay, I do have a pony in this race, and it's you. My peeps. All of you.
Is what I've been trying and failing and rambling on and on and then erasing and not posting because I'm afraid whatever I say is going to get everyone on all sides more upset for DAYS now.
I'm with Teppy on the Sean love. I DON'T have a solution. I've been wrapping my brain around it, and every proposal that sounds good to me has people I'd love to discuss TV with saying "That's NEVER going to work for me." And that we keep coming up with band-aid solutions that sorta work for some of the people some of the time. And that I feel like I may have frelled up one of the TV discussion threads where at least some of the people had a place that DID (as opposed to sorta) work for them (whether or not it was inevitable, I pulled to trigger or at least cocked the gun or loaded the bullet or something).
Can I love on Sean just a little, too? 'Cause man, what he said. From another point on the compass of fannishness, but the exact same sentiment, and thanks for expressing it, Sean.
Frank, please. Stoppit. If it wasn't this, it would have been something else. This discussion has been a long time a-comin' and was--still is--necessary. You aren't to blame for anything. We should probably thank you, once the bruises fade a little. Sorry! (not) SPN humor!
Oh my, JohnSweden, may I please tag? I'm in love with this sentence.
Of course! ::scuffs toe ::
The way this discussion has come around, from where it started, to here, with everyone affirming that the most important thing is the people we care about, puts a lump in my throat. This really is a wonderful community.
Frank, please. Stoppit. If it wasn't this, it would have been something else.
Points at the wise woman
Doesn't laugh though.
right now.
Well, it's all old news now, but:
(And, I can't say I was squeeing, but I was definitely participating, so I thought it would be clear I was joking.)
FWIW, I totally knew you were joking.
I'll go wherever the SPN discussion goes, and also stay in Boxed Set because I'm a ginormous fannish crackwhore. I'm not upset by any of this except for the part where other people are upset, if that makes sense.
Same here.
I routinely second proposals, whether or not I plan to vote in favor them, just because I figure issues, once raised, should be discussed and settled. I also routinely second proposals made by my friends.
I hope the SPN fans who are hurt know I didn't second it to boot you (us) out. I seconded it, so the discussion could start, and because my friend Amy was brave enough to make the proposal (for whatever reasons).
And here, I am 100% Cindy.
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Sean. Ya' big doll.
That is, are there any SPN viewers who use Boxed Set but who DON'T feel like they're being shoved out and instead think that maybe an SPN thread could be a good thing?
::raises hand:: I love SPN like my own crackaddled baby, but I find it difficult to talk about in Boxed Set, mostly because of my Time Difference Issues, and also because I don't have any interest in W&Ping. I think a dedicated show thread would make it more accessible for me, and would allow the nine hundred other shows I watch + talk about in Boxed Set flourish more.
I'll go wherever the SPN discussion goes, and also stay in Boxed Set because I'm a ginormous fannish crackwhore. I'm not upset by any of this except for the part where other people are upset, if that makes sense.
Or what shrift said.
Is it safe to generalize that if you watch Supernatural and consider yourself media-fannish, that you would be tolerant of posting in an environment where there was also discussion of other, currently airing, material?
Not necessarily! Boxed Set would stay my primary board-related discussion area for that kind of thing. I wouldn't bring it into SPN.
Nicely put, Sean. The crummy part of this for me is this strange divisiveness with people I really care about. I wish it weren't there. But it does kind of feel like i've had this conversation more than once now.