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Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!  

We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!


Lee - Jul 17, 2007 9:37:27 am PDT #7286 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

That is, are there any SPN viewers who use Boxed Set but who DON'T feel like they're being shoved out and instead think that maybe an SPN thread could be a good thing?

I would too. One of my biggest problems with this whole thing is that it's seemed to me to have come out of someone saying essentially "you all talk too much about a show I don't watch, so I don't think you should talk about it here anymore. Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?" It's grown since then, with a couple of people saying they might join in if there was a dedicated space if they have time, but the fact that this is how it started still bugs.


sumi - Jul 17, 2007 9:41:51 am PDT #7287 of 10289
Art Crawl!!!

I am an SPN viewer who uses boxed set and would love an SPN thread and would still continue to use boxed set if we had one.


Ailleann - Jul 17, 2007 9:42:51 am PDT #7288 of 10289
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Roll call: SPN watcher, Boxed Set reader (for other than SPN), definitely fannish (about all and sundry, not just SPN).

I wouldn't bitch about having a thread just for SPN, as I would visit it often. I will continue to visit in Boxed Set regardless of where SPN goes or stays. I was a BS person since well before I watched SPN.

From how I understand Nutty's definitions of media-fannishness, I believe it will continue in BS for those who have those tendencies who watch shows that are discussed in BS, regardless of SPN's location.

If someone suggests that the volume of SPN posts merits its own thread, than we should have a vote upon that issue and let the masses decide. I as an SPN person hope that we did not bother a large number of people in BS with our flail. We just like our show. (Many of us like your shows too.)

Though I know that it seems to bring up the same issues over and over again, I appreciate that we try to hash out each proposal separately, because each new suggestion is a different animal. I understand that we may or may not be experiencing a shift in how people use/want to use our community, but trying to address the larger issue every single time we vote on a new thread seems to just make people cranky.

I love my board. I love you folks. I just wanna talk.

passes out daisies for everyone


Glamcookie - Jul 17, 2007 9:44:49 am PDT #7289 of 10289
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Reposting from my earlier post cause I think it's worth discussing:

Maybe reaching a consensus on what that volume limit is would be helpful for future discussions? That would take it out of any personal realm and base it solely on a pre-stated volume estimate. Thoughts?

Also, I'm into SPN and BS and would use both threads (though I'd have to wait to catch up before diving into SPN).

ETA: I am not nor have I ever been annoyed by the SPN talk in BS - it belongs there. It was just enough volume (and the fact that I don't want to be spoiled) that it made using BS a little tough, so I stopped going. If SPN remains in BS, I'll not be upset. Just to clarify.


P.M. Marc - Jul 17, 2007 9:44:53 am PDT #7290 of 10289
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

One of my biggest problems with this whole thing is that it's seemed to me to have come out of someone saying essentially "you all talk too much about a show I don't watch, so I don't think you should talk about it here anymore. Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?" It's grown since then, with a couple of people saying they might join in if there was a dedicated space if they have time, but the fact that this is how it started still bugs.

Yeah. This. It lacked anything even resembling an organic feel.

And yes, because I am JUST THAT NEUROTIC, if I get seriously fannish about another Boxed Set kind of show, I probably won't post about it in Boxed Set as a result. Which I realize is my ish.

It's a no-win situation all around, I guess.


Liese S. - Jul 17, 2007 9:46:49 am PDT #7291 of 10289
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

but trying to address the larger issue every single time we vote on a new thread seems to just make people cranky

Yeah, I know. I just wish we could address the larger issue once and then be able to just create or not create new threads based on a philosophy henceforth. However, I know that we are the Buffistas and we know not the concept of once and for all. Maybe once and for a six month moratorium. Hee.


Cass - Jul 17, 2007 10:00:39 am PDT #7292 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

One of my biggest problems with this whole thing is that it's seemed to me to have come out of someone saying essentially "you all talk too much about a show I don't watch, so I don't think you should talk about it here anymore. Why don't you propose a new place for you to talk about it?"
This bothers me. A lot.

It's just that it feels like it could sustain its own thread.
I don't know that SPN can sustain a healthy thread on its own.

But I suspect we're going to find out. Which just feels bizarre to me that the people who would be using a thread the most didn't really want it in the first place.

That we will use it and many people, including me, feel like they want out of Boxed Set now is not really a reflection on how we felt three or four days ago. To be clear, it's not how *I* felt then. And it's not what I have been reading others say.

It's a no-win situation all around, I guess.
It really is.


Lee - Jul 17, 2007 10:04:37 am PDT #7293 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

And yes, because I am JUST THAT NEUROTIC, if I get seriously fannish about another Boxed Set kind of show, I probably won't post about it in Boxed Set as a result. Which I realize is my ish.

I wouldn't either, not when I would always have to wonder if I am going to get shut down/moved elsewhere if I am getting too fannish.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2007 10:06:03 am PDT #7294 of 10289
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So wait. Are you SPN types saying you wouldn't want to stay in Boxed Set now, anyway, no matter what?


Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 10:11:23 am PDT #7295 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I wouldn't. More, I'd be reluctant to post in there, even if I was reading about a show I was interested in. Any discussion of a show in Boxed Set might find its way into a discussion of Supernatural in the SPN thread, as a compare and contrast sort of thing. But I would definitely not feel comfortable discussing any show in BS, other than to ask a straightforward question or something.