Cordelia ,'Storyteller'
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
To win a vote, the option must have 50% +1. So if the majority vote No Preference, that is essentially a Take No Action vote.To win a vote, the option must have 50%+1 of the yes/no (or actionable) votes.
Example. Our minimum vote total is 42. If 20 people vote YES, and 17 people vote NO, and 5 people vote NO PREFERENCE, the yes votes take the day. You don't need 50%+1 of 42 (or more). You need 50%+1 of the quantity [yes votes + no votes].
Interesting. 39 people could vote no pref 2 could vote yes and one no and yes would get it.
Yes, but if people didn't want it to pass they would vote No.
Interesting. 39 people could vote no pref 2 could vote yes and one no and yes would get it.
Right. Essentially, the 39 people don't care what the outcome is, but do agree whatever issue at hand needs to be resolved (probably because they're frigging sick of hearing about it).
We just had a discussion about No Preference votes in Bureaucracy.
ita got me.
I wasn't shooing anybody away, either from a particular thread or b.org in general. I was genuinely asking--because it seems strange to me because I've never thought of b.org as that sort of board--if people here would really prefer to reproduce the board experience of WX. And if so, why?
Kristin and Drew said it's because they want to talk about the shows they watch with the people here, and okay, I get that. That's an aspect I hadn't considered.
I just think that individual show threads are already created--albeit on another board--so I was wondering why replicate that experience *here*? Because aside from the Whedon shows, that has never been the experience of *this* board. B.org has always been more like an organic conversation. We've split off subjects that threaten to take over the room (movies, music, books, writing and fic), and even tv. But aside from the Whedon shows and behemoths like Lost (used to be), Veronica Mars, and Heroes (still not convinced that was a good idea, but that's my own personal opinion), the tv shows have been grouped into shared threads.
But if people are considering a television folder with a hundred or more individual show-dedicated threads, that's... boggling. That's a huge culture change. And I can't quite see the reason for it, the necessity for it, when something *just like that* already exists.
I may be dense, but I'm not trying to shoo anybody away. I'm just trying to understand what other people want and expect from this board.
so I was wondering why replicate that experience *here*?
And I can't quite see the reason for it, the necessity for it, when something *just like that* already exists.
Because the *people* with whom Kristin and Drew want to discuss the shows are *here,* not at WX.
The feeling is NOT "I want to discuss SPN, and I don't really care who I discuss it with; I just want to fling my opinion out into the aether void and see if someone with a basic grasp of spelling and grammar decides to answer."
Rather, the feeling is "I want to discuss SPN with these people who I already know and like and enjoy discussing a crazy array of other topics with."
At least, that's the way it seems to me.
t edit I should ALSO say that I'm not reading this *specific* discussion (that is, the one we're having right now, as proposed by AmyLiz) as Should B.Org Have A Television Folder With A Thread For Every Show Anyone Watches?
We've split off subjects that threaten to take over the room (movies, music, books, writing and fic), and even tv. But aside from the Whedon shows and behemoths like Lost (used to be), Veronica Mars, and Heroes
Um. Isn't that what we're talking about doing? Is the idea that, rather than setting precedent, we've done it too much and must stop or else change the board's essential nature?
Sincerely asking. Don't understand.
I think you could even include Bitches and Natter in that list.
Like Kristin, I feel that it would be crappy not to share how I would vote. I am pro SPN-dedicated thread. I would never have proposed a new thread cause I'm not that invested, but now that it's coming up, that's how I'd vote. I've stopped going into BS because of the volume of SPN discussion. To be fair, the only BS show I'm up-to-date on is BSG, so that is what I skim for. It was never an issue until SPN started really taking off in there. I enjoy SPN, too, but I've only watched the S1 DVDs so far, so I have to be careful not to get spoiled. So between these two issues, I've taken BS off my visit list. Were SPN to have a dedicated thread, I'd be back into BS and join the SPN discussion when I catch up cause I loves me some Jensen Ackles! Plus, look at all the b.org hotties that would be in there! Woot!
On a more serious note, it sucks that the SPN posters are feeling badly. BS has been/is SPN's home, and you have every right to use it. I've never felt annoyance with anyone and have found the squee to be downright charming. It's simply a volume/usability issue for me. I sincerely hope that if SPN spins off into its own thread that we still see all the SPNers in BS, too.