And I think Kat might be on to something, as far as no longer including a "No Opinion" choice. I'm abstaining from the vote completely.
I don't know that that's the answer either, though. I've voted no preference on issues before because *I* have no particular preference and would like to throw my support to the majority. If I knew what the majority of people that do have a preference for this particular issue wanted, I would vote that way. But, since I don't, I will probably vote no preference so that I will count toward the minimum number of votes needed, while the people that do have a preference can be the deciders. Not caring what the outcome is doesn't translate to me not caring whether there is an outcome or not. Does that make sense?
Not caring what the outcome is doesn't translate to me not caring whether there is an outcome or not. Does that make sense?
Absolutely. But for me, on this issue specifically, I feel so Not Involved In This Specific Issue that I don't feel right even voting No Preference.
Oh, I wasn't questioning your decision not to vote at all, Sean. I was addressing the suggestion to not have no preference as option to those who wanted it as one.
I don't understand how having a separate thread could ever be exclusionary if everyone who wants to join can.
Personally, as someone who is in Boxed Set and watches SPN? Because I am never going to watch those other shows in the first place otherwise. I watch things when I read interesting discussions about them and people intrigue me.
I have two new shows to catch eps of because an unboard person burbled in lj and got my interest.
I watched BSG because of the board and discussion in Boxed Set. And Eureka. And Dresden. And SGA. And got back into SG-1. And, even, Supernatural.
Would the people feeling like SPN can't be removed from Boxed Set no longer post in Boxed Set if SPN is removed? Or would they have two conversations--one about SPN in that thread, and one about other Boxed Set shows?
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set. Now when I am skimming through the shows in Boxed Set that I don't really watch, I still catch bits and conversations get my attention and I stop to read them.
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
I meant to agree with Plei earlier when she said something similar, but this is where I would be as well. The only other show from Boxed Set I watch right now is Eureka, and that has a short enough season that it will be over before most new shows start. Straight SFF just doesn't do much for me, and in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
Then again SPN is not Heroes, and so we can't assume that an SPN thread would fall quiet just because a Heroes thread has. In its favor, SPN generates a lot of discussion of fic, so it may well create more sustained discussion during reruns.
SPN has been in reruns all summer and it's still dominating Boxed Set with sustained discussion. Why would it be any different in its own thread?
I'm in the same boat with Cass and Lee with regard to giving new-to-me shows a look because someone in Boxed Set is enthusiastic about a show I don't watch. And this:
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
and this:
in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
So right now, whether or not I ever use either thread myself I'd vote to get the elephant into its own thread just so it stops kludgeing up Boxed Set for other people.
I never went into Boxed Set until I realized SPN discussion was centered there. As much as I would like to start watching Eureka, I probably won't for a while, so I would unsubscribe to Boxed Set, too.
That's just me, though. As I said, SPN was the only reason I subscribed in the first place.
It doesn't make me sad that Different People Like Different Shit. I'm fairly confident that the board really truly seriously tries to accommodate as many people as possible but it's never going to be 100% and that's okay.
Instead of sad, I actually feel heartened by this discussion because it's heartfelt and serious and thoughtful and respectful and I like that about us.
All that stuff he said. It is giving me a feeling of odd that I hesitate so much to express my feelings about not being comfortable in Boxed Set because it may make another Buffista uncomfortable in Boxed Set. Maybe more than odd, yeah sad.
I watched BSG because of the board and discussion in Boxed Set. And Eureka. And Dresden. And SGA. And got back into SG-1. And, even, Supernatural.
Would the people feeling like SPN can't be removed from Boxed Set no longer post in Boxed Set if SPN is removed? Or would they have two conversations--one about SPN in that thread, and one about other Boxed Set shows?
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
I'm really trying to not be obtuse, but I kind of don't get this. Would you stop watching those other shows you picked up? Why? I get the time issue, but it sounds like there's more to it than that. Is the [thread where you discuss SPN] the only place you're open to discovering new shows? I know that's not it, but it kind of sounds that way.
in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
I hate seeing this. And I remember how traumatic the creation of Boxed Set was for me and I think a number of other Due South folks. So I do kind of understand. But - gah. I don't want to be saying "your feelings of being unwelcome are invalid." But I'm really not sure I get where all the defensiveness is coming from.
