Oh, I wasn't questioning your decision not to vote at all, Sean. I was addressing the suggestion to not have no preference as option to those who wanted it as one.
But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!
Wash ,'War Stories'
Voting Discussion: We're Screwing In Light Bulbs AIFG!
We open it up, we talks the talk, we votes, we shuts it down. This thread is to free up Bureaucracy for daily details as we hammer out the Big Issues towards a vote. Open only when a proposal has been made and seconded according to Buffista policy (Which we voted on!). If this thread is closed, hie thee to Bureaucracy instead!
Denise - Jul 16, 2007 9:38:21 pm PDT #7206 of 10289
Cass - Jul 16, 2007 11:07:17 pm PDT #7207 of 10289
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I don't understand how having a separate thread could ever be exclusionary if everyone who wants to join can.Personally, as someone who is in Boxed Set and watches SPN? Because I am never going to watch those other shows in the first place otherwise. I watch things when I read interesting discussions about them and people intrigue me.
I have two new shows to catch eps of because an unboard person burbled in lj and got my interest.
I watched BSG because of the board and discussion in Boxed Set. And Eureka. And Dresden. And SGA. And got back into SG-1. And, even, Supernatural.
Would the people feeling like SPN can't be removed from Boxed Set no longer post in Boxed Set if SPN is removed? Or would they have two conversations--one about SPN in that thread, and one about other Boxed Set shows?Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set. Now when I am skimming through the shows in Boxed Set that I don't really watch, I still catch bits and conversations get my attention and I stop to read them.
Lee - Jul 16, 2007 11:19:26 pm PDT #7208 of 10289
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
I meant to agree with Plei earlier when she said something similar, but this is where I would be as well. The only other show from Boxed Set I watch right now is Eureka, and that has a short enough season that it will be over before most new shows start. Straight SFF just doesn't do much for me, and in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 2:47:03 am PDT #7209 of 10289
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Then again SPN is not Heroes, and so we can't assume that an SPN thread would fall quiet just because a Heroes thread has. In its favor, SPN generates a lot of discussion of fic, so it may well create more sustained discussion during reruns.
SPN has been in reruns all summer and it's still dominating Boxed Set with sustained discussion. Why would it be any different in its own thread?
Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 3:50:50 am PDT #7210 of 10289
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
I'm in the same boat with Cass and Lee with regard to giving new-to-me shows a look because someone in Boxed Set is enthusiastic about a show I don't watch. And this:
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
and this:
in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
So right now, whether or not I ever use either thread myself I'd vote to get the elephant into its own thread just so it stops kludgeing up Boxed Set for other people.
Amy - Jul 17, 2007 3:53:03 am PDT #7211 of 10289
Because books.
I never went into Boxed Set until I realized SPN discussion was centered there. As much as I would like to start watching Eureka, I probably won't for a while, so I would unsubscribe to Boxed Set, too.
That's just me, though. As I said, SPN was the only reason I subscribed in the first place.
Laura - Jul 17, 2007 4:15:33 am PDT #7212 of 10289
Our wings are not tired.
It doesn't make me sad that Different People Like Different Shit. I'm fairly confident that the board really truly seriously tries to accommodate as many people as possible but it's never going to be 100% and that's okay.
Instead of sad, I actually feel heartened by this discussion because it's heartfelt and serious and thoughtful and respectful and I like that about us.
All that stuff he said. It is giving me a feeling of odd that I hesitate so much to express my feelings about not being comfortable in Boxed Set because it may make another Buffista uncomfortable in Boxed Set. Maybe more than odd, yeah sad.
brenda m - Jul 17, 2007 4:19:31 am PDT #7213 of 10289
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I watched BSG because of the board and discussion in Boxed Set. And Eureka. And Dresden. And SGA. And got back into SG-1. And, even, Supernatural.
Would the people feeling like SPN can't be removed from Boxed Set no longer post in Boxed Set if SPN is removed? Or would they have two conversations--one about SPN in that thread, and one about other Boxed Set shows?
Not as any kind of protest, but when I run out of time, I unsubscribe from threads I care less about. And so, yeah, I probably would rarely be back in Boxed Set.
I'm really trying to not be obtuse, but I kind of don't get this. Would you stop watching those other shows you picked up? Why? I get the time issue, but it sounds like there's more to it than that. Is the [thread where you discuss SPN] the only place you're open to discovering new shows? I know that's not it, but it kind of sounds that way.
in all honesty, after all of this, I'm not completely sure I'd even be comfortable in Boxed Set anyway.
I hate seeing this. And I remember how traumatic the creation of Boxed Set was for me and I think a number of other Due South folks. So I do kind of understand. But - gah. I don't want to be saying "your feelings of being unwelcome are invalid." But I'm really not sure I get where all the defensiveness is coming from.
Sean K - Jul 17, 2007 4:26:21 am PDT #7214 of 10289
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
It makes me both sad and happy that Buffistas Like Different Shit, but it's frustrating watching this conversation as a mostly Outsider because I can't help but wonder just how much the people more directly involved in this are aware that there are two very different, mostly incompatible ways of using the board going up against each other.
Zenkitty - Jul 17, 2007 4:27:44 am PDT #7215 of 10289
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Personally, as someone who is in Boxed Set and watches SPN? Because I am never going to watch those other shows in the first place otherwise. I watch things when I read interesting discussions about them and people intrigue me.
This is probably how most people feel about this, too, but just in case I'm not the only person who feels differently, I'm going to throw out yet another opposing viewpoint.
When I get overwhelmed with posts about a show, I lose whatever interest I may have had in ever watching it. I've seen two episodes of SPN, one with a bunch of happy people and one on my tv alone. I even bought the 1st season DVDs a while back, but now I have zero interest in ever seeing it again. (I am blaming no one! I'm happy that they're happy.) I'm the same with BSG. I once thought I'd go back and catch up, but after it drowned out discussion of Dresden Files, I'm sick of it. It may have been only a "brief" time that it was overwhelming (four months is brief?), but that brief time covered an entire season of a show I loved, that may not come back, and I'm still kinda pissed that it kept me from talking much about it with my favorite people. If I'm the only one who ever feels this way, okay then, but if I'm not, this is the downside of "cross-pollination".
Conversely, the discussion of (for instance) Dr. Who hasn't overwhelmed me, and I'm still looking forward to watching the whole series. Even though I'm totally spoiled. By the time I get 'round to it I'll have forgotten most of it anyway.